July 28, 2011 3:52 am at 3:52 am #598270
The point of this thread is not to discuss any movie at all.
It is just to try to get a feel of how many frum jews watch movies.
Of course, i am not referring to “jewish movies”. They don’t count, for the purposes of this survey. ThanksJuly 28, 2011 4:17 am at 4:17 am #800515
remember no one knows who you are…… 🙂July 28, 2011 4:26 am at 4:26 am #800516bortezomibParticipant
I shouldn’t say I don’t watch movies anymore..
In the past two years, I watched 3, one was for extra credit for a class, and the other two were animated (Toys Story3 and Alice in Wonderland if you were curious).
So i SHOULDN’T say i don’t watch movies, but i do, because I don’t actively go to watch. (both times my brothers were watching and i sat down and joined)
Missing two HP movies hurt, that much I can tell you, and sometimes i ache to watch, but at the end of the day, staring blankly at a highly entertaining, numbingly stupid-ifying screen is not what I want to spend my time doing, so that’s that!July 28, 2011 5:15 am at 5:15 am #800517YW Moderator-42Moderator
Why do frum Jews only watch movies on airplanes?
Torah lo bashamayim heJuly 28, 2011 5:21 am at 5:21 am #800518PeerimsameachParticipant
Cuz their bored!or don’t usually so think it’s okay. Lol bt yo mad funny.July 28, 2011 6:01 am at 6:01 am #800519charliehallParticipant
Yes, but rarely. I watched a movie on my return flight from Europe last week.July 28, 2011 6:38 am at 6:38 am #800520
Ha! But to me, if someone watches movies on an airplane, that means that he doesn’t have a problem with watching movies anywhere. He might not because of people looking over his shoulder though….July 28, 2011 6:49 am at 6:49 am #800521
“I shouldn’t say I don’t watch movies anymore..
In the past two years, I watched 3, one was for extra credit for a class, and the other two were animated (Toys Story3 and Alice in Wonderland if you were curious).”
What class was this? A teacher in a frum school assigned a movie for extra credit? Or was it in college?
If you feel these questions are nosy or intrusive, please don’t answerJuly 28, 2011 7:31 am at 7:31 am #800522jmj613Participant
yw mod excellent!!!! i stopped watching movies few years ago. more out of thinking its waste of time and less out of yiddishkeit. lately i have seen some but i can count them on one hand.July 28, 2011 10:19 am at 10:19 am #800523PosterMember
YW Moderator-42, who are u reffering to by FRUM JEWS. I dont watch movies on airplanes and I am a frum jew. If I wouldnt watch a movie in my dining room, why would i do so on an airplane?July 28, 2011 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm #800524mommamia22Participant
I didn’t see movies for 7 years, after I saw a movie that was so untzniusdicke, I was horrified and walked out in the middle ( and found half the theatre was yeshiva boys and seminary girls (in Israel). Then, a friend of mine came in from out of town and wanted to see “Who Framed Roger Rabbit, which was partially a cartoon. My parents pushed me to go, for her. That kind of broke down the wall a little bit. Later, I was set up with a guy from a yeshivish background who (unbeknownst to me) became a bit more modern. We went out for a while, but I hung back because of the hashkafic differences. To see if I’d be ok with his way of life, I agreed to see a movie, only far away, where no one would see me. The next night I told him I wanted to see a movie again! I still didn’t want a tv in my future house, which was agreed upon. However, a friend bought us a tv as a wedding present (I suspect so he could watch when he came over). That was the end of that.July 28, 2011 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm #800525dunnoMember
Lol Mod 42…I like that one!July 28, 2011 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #800526tracht gutMember
mod- lol it’s true i only watch on the plane..July 28, 2011 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #800527ursula momishMember
42-good one!July 28, 2011 1:23 pm at 1:23 pm #800528mikehall12382Member
I watch movies…not as much as I did when I was younger, but I’m not opposed to them…Of course I pay attention to the ratings.July 28, 2011 1:31 pm at 1:31 pm #800529shlishiMember
remember no one knows who you are…… 🙂
G-d knows who you are.July 28, 2011 1:59 pm at 1:59 pm #800531mewhoParticipant
i watch movies. i prefer comediesJuly 28, 2011 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #800533bptParticipant
Haven’t in a long time, but I really miss the Bond movies!
And I’ll bet the Harry Potter saga looked 10 x better on a big screen than it does on DVD (Babby’s house, natch)July 28, 2011 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #800534optimusprimeMember
Not as much anymore.I especially enjoyed the Lord of the Rings trilogy (though IMHO the books were more entertaining)July 28, 2011 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #800535zahavasdadParticipant
remember no one knows who you are…… 🙂
G-d knows who you are.
Alot of times things arent halachily assur, but “frumkite” assurJuly 28, 2011 2:36 pm at 2:36 pm #800536mommamia22Participant
I think movies are frowned upon because of bitul Torah and being exposed to untzniusdicke things. Frankly, if a person isn’t going to learn Torah in that time anyway, a lot of movies are very benign. Going to a theatre is another story, though. If I wouldn’t invite the others who are seated in the theaters to my living room, why would I sit with them there? It’s a shared experience, and thus a connection. The trouble is figuring out what’s ok to see and what’s not. By the time you’re ready to reject a movie, you’ve seen too much.July 28, 2011 2:36 pm at 2:36 pm #800537shlishiMember
Alot of times things arent halachily assur, but “frumkite” assur
Movies are halachicly assur. Even if there is “only” one scene of one woman dressed totally tznius except that her shirt-sleeve only reaches just above her elbow. Considering (other than animated only films) that out of over 250,000 made I doubt there are even a handful that meet that criteria. And the vast vast vast majority are far far far worse.July 28, 2011 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #800538zahavasdadParticipant
By that standard walking the streets of NYC in summer is halachily assue, Almost everyone dresses Untzniut.July 28, 2011 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #800539bortezomibParticipant
quark- dont worry, It was an extra credit assignment from college. I had to watch a movie that had something to do with anthropology..she recommended one rated pg13, so my friend picked a nice PG one, and we had a kosher movie night.July 28, 2011 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm #800540MiddlePathParticipant
I watch a movie maybe once a week. I rarely go to the theater, because it just seems like a waste of money. When I’m married, I plan to have ‘movie night’ (around once a week) with my wife. Or, as often as she would like.July 28, 2011 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #800541adorableParticipant
i remember once when we had to watch something for school and a friend of mine sat down but felt so horrible watching after so many years of not watching…she could not stop saying how it feels horrible…. but it was a perfectly kosher movie (we had to read the book but didnt want to so we just watched the movie instead)July 28, 2011 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #800542kakoParticipant
If frum jews think going to the movies is ok, we are in trouble!July 28, 2011 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #800543ItcheSrulikMember
I watch movies, not only with my kippa on, but with my tzitzis out too, though I mostly don’t go to theaters because I’m not into it enough to spend the extra money and travel time.July 28, 2011 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #800545yid4lifeMember
i used to watch movies all the time. But then i realized it destroys my sense of relationships. I can think of 1 movie that I watched since i stopped (which was about a year and a half ago) and that movie reestablished my reasoning for why i stopped.. I am trying to get out of the fantasy land of perfect love stories and watching these movies always puts me back in it!July 28, 2011 6:53 pm at 6:53 pm #800546lovesbeingjewishMember
mommamia22- r u happier and more fulfilled now that u watch movies?July 28, 2011 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #800547lovesbeingjewishMember
movies are the anitthwesis of torah. its so sad all of you still watch them. you need to delete ur facebooks and stop watching movies this instant!!July 28, 2011 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #800548m in IsraelMember
I’m not a very “b’shitta” type of person, so although I don’t have a TV, certainly don’t go to movie theaters, and don’t generally watch movies, I wouldn’t say “I don’t watch movies” because if I happened to be somewhere and others were watching a movie I would possibly sit down and watch if it seemed interesting.
However I truly don’t believe there exists any non-kids movies today which are “a perfectly kosher movie” — maybe “mostly kosher” or “pretty ok” . .. .I remember when I was in high school there was a certain movie that had come out that was very popular among the girls in my OOT Bais Yaakov. Many girls who didn’t “watch movies” were watching it “just to see some of the great choreography”, and anyway, it was “perfectly clean”. A friend of mine was convinced by someone to join her in watching. About 15 seconds into the movie came the first bit of nivul peh. When my friend raised her eyes, the other girl said “oh, everyone talks like that in the world — it doesn’t count!” — and of course the romantic subplot with the related scenes didn’t count either. . .
Although for a woman or girl watching movies is probably not halachicly assur (men are obviously a different issue), you are definitely introducing many things into your mind that you are better off without — language, twisted values, violence, unrealistic relationships, etc.July 28, 2011 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #800549always hereParticipant
yes I watch movies, albeit not very often. saw ‘Harry Potter’ 11 days ago.July 28, 2011 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #800550HealthParticipant
quark2 – Are you Joseph? Because this sounds like a topic he would start!July 28, 2011 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm #800551No One SpecialMember
Most movies are not created with a torahdig view, to put it mildly. They give you false illusions of relationships, and seeing things that are not tznius is totally asur. There are definitely some like national geographic ones, that pose no problem at all, but still, I know plenty of people who are movie addicts and it slowly but surely leads them down down down so I try to keep from watching any.July 28, 2011 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm #800552ginger311Member
everyone is effected by what they see, thats why there is a concept of shmiras eynayim. if its in ur control (ie. in the street vs. bringing the movie into ur house) then u are gonna be held accountable. and no movie is completly kosher! if their is, then let me know…July 28, 2011 9:26 pm at 9:26 pm #800553littleappleMember
If a Jew that worships Hashem would actually realize that when watching a film or play he or she is offering their heart and mind to a group of people that literally worship another god. 99% of the entertainment crowd are consciously or subconsciously in a cult called “art for arts sake” whose values are sunk in selfishness and Greek culture, exalting the human self. This is why the most sensitive films end up having the opposite effect and cause more callousness about the exact topic they dealt with. I heard Rav Feldman (R.Y. Ner Yisrael) bring a posuk from Mishlei with the commntary of the Gra to prove this and he said he saw it occur himself when a couple that had problems saw a Swedish artsy film about a marriage and divorce and immediately after their marriage took a turn for the worst.July 29, 2011 1:41 am at 1:41 am #800554ItcheSrulikMember
littleapple: By that logic it would be forbidden to daven at 90% of the shuls in Brooklyn because you would have to “offer your heart and mind to a groupof people that literally worship another god” (sic) by listening to the endless conversation of people who come to shul to serve their Lord and Saviour the Almighty Benjamin.July 29, 2011 2:01 am at 2:01 am #800555brotherofursParticipant
i really tried very hard to stop watching this year. i started last summer by only watching movies i saw b4 [ones i knew like by heart when i was little].. this year i watched 3 or 4 . 2 of them were for school and were black and white]…i didn’t really tell my family memers that i won’t go to a theatre anymore because they would make it much worse for me..it was sooo hard for me not to see the new harry potters that came out 🙁 i used to be obsessed. but i did it b”H!July 29, 2011 2:06 am at 2:06 am #800556WIYMember
“By that standard walking the streets of NYC in summer is halachily assue, Almost everyone dresses Untzniut.”
True, one has to watch his eyes at all times, but in the street, one has no choice, he has to be there but even in the street one can be very careful and look downwards and not see anything untzniusdig. Watching a movie is willingly looking watching and listening to things that are assur and kenneged the Torah way of life. No hetter whatsoever.July 29, 2011 2:19 am at 2:19 am #800557mikehall12382Member
I’m taking my kids to see WInnie the Pooh..I have no problem with it….every couple of months or so I’ll take my wife for dinner and she’ll treat me to a movie 😉July 29, 2011 3:06 am at 3:06 am #800558minyan galMember
I only wish that I could watch movies. As soon as they start, I stop – I am asleep within minutes. Certainly they work better for me than any prescription medication – and it doesn’t matter if the movie is on TV, on a plane or in a theatre where I have paid at least 10 dollars for a ticket. I only hope that I don’t snore. I have even been known to fall asleep during live theatre events where the tickets are far more costly than 10 dollars.July 29, 2011 3:38 am at 3:38 am #800559
“remember no one knows who you are…… 🙂
G-d knows who you are”
Shlishi you completely missed the boat on that comment. I wasn’t saying that that is a reason to watch. I was saying that if you do watch, you shouldn’t stop from telling us on the internet, since no one ON THE INTERNET knows who you are, generally speaking.July 29, 2011 3:42 am at 3:42 am #800560
“Alot of times things arent halachily assur, but “frumkite” assur
Movies are halachicly assur. Even if there is “only” one scene of one woman dressed totally tznius except that her shirt-sleeve only reaches just above her elbow. Considering (other than animated only films) that out of over 250,000 made I doubt there are even a handful that meet that criteria. And the vast vast vast majority are far far far worse.”
Shlishi i think you are wrong. Since the reason why you are going to the movie is NOT to see the not tznius woman, this would probably be classified as a case of “leka darkah achrinah”, and would therefore be halachically permissable. If you don’t know what im talking about, you should really learn the sugya in the end of Chezkas HaBatim, and you will see what i mean.
And like someone else said, using your logic, it would be assur to go to Walmart in the spring and summer?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?
No, the heter is like I said, it is “leka darkah achrinah”. If on your way to get entertainment you accidentally say a womans arm, there is no problem. Mutar al pee gemara, rambam, shulcnan aruch, achronim, etc. etc. etc.July 29, 2011 3:45 am at 3:45 am #800561
Health who is Joseph? I’m not really on here that often….July 29, 2011 3:47 am at 3:47 am #800562Still lookingParticipant
I am so proud to say that I don’t watch movies!!July 29, 2011 3:54 am at 3:54 am #800563
‘Still looking’ you win the award for….. something, i guess.
So anyway, how do you get your entertainment usually? Or don’t you?July 29, 2011 3:57 am at 3:57 am #800564CheinMember
quark2: See “WIY”‘s comment. It already answered your point. You should look down when walking in Wal-Mart on on the street (in NY or anywhere) to avoid seeing pritzus/non-tznius. You go to a movie knowing, or should knowing, there will be non-tznius (unless it is a totally animated film as was pointed out.) There simply is no excuse. You won’t be able to tell the beis din shel maila any excuses.July 29, 2011 4:08 am at 4:08 am #800566CheinMember
quark2: There is absolutely positively no “need” to see a movie. There is a no excuse. You know it has pritzus. It is prohibited.July 29, 2011 4:10 am at 4:10 am #800567
The problem with this survey is that it seems like most of the people here are over 40, or more, and are out of the main “movie demographic”. Everyone is saying things like “i used to but now etc.”
If we did this poll with younger people, like from 12 to 25, it would probably be much higher
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