July 29, 2011 4:15 am at 4:15 am #800568
I agree. If we did it with a younger frum crowd it would probably be much higher rate of having never watched, compared to the older crowd who have in the past watched – even though they’ve since stopped.July 29, 2011 4:25 am at 4:25 am #800570
I hope and wish you could be right but not so sure that you are realistic, we have an issue with kids texting on Shabbos you really think most kids never watched a movie?July 29, 2011 4:25 am at 4:25 am #800571am yisrael chaiParticipant
I’m more concerned with the movie of my life in which I am currently starring.
I am also the producer, director, and partial writer.
I’m concerned that after 120 Hashem will “roll the tape”… and there will be not much chance of further editing… Nor will there be anywhere to hide.July 29, 2011 4:25 am at 4:25 am #800572
Don’t try to kasher pork quark2.July 29, 2011 4:30 am at 4:30 am #800574
AYC: *LIKE*July 29, 2011 4:31 am at 4:31 am #800575
I went through the Litvish Yeshiva system through and through. And in the frum Litvish Yeshivas movies are one of the biggest no-nos. I know the less frum schools don’t care too much if you watch a movie, but I am discussing the frum schools.July 29, 2011 4:35 am at 4:35 am #800576
As someone in his upper 20s who quit watching movies, I can attest that the are all full of filth and dvarim assurim.
Nudity in rated R films and sometimes in pg13
Foul language, cursing…
Talk about sex, drugs and other inappropriate topics
Violence and brutality
Non Jewish music
Introduction of themes that promote non Jewish ways of life, promote crime, drug uuseviolence… (ways of life that most adult mature non Jews would agree are bad and immoral…)July 29, 2011 4:41 am at 4:41 am #800577
Don’t bother chein. It’s a waste of time. I’m sure there are more sensible people out there who appreciate your comments.
(btw, are you new here? Seems so, since looks like you don’t really know how things work in here:))July 29, 2011 4:49 am at 4:49 am #800579
Thanks You observanteen. I’m going to take your advice.July 29, 2011 5:42 am at 5:42 am #800581
great idea chein. when you are forced to admit that you are wrong, instead, “take his advise” LOLJuly 29, 2011 7:13 am at 7:13 am #800582
mammamia thats a great story. funny too (so he could come over and watch LOL)July 29, 2011 7:17 am at 7:17 am #800583
someone said something that movies give you a false sense of relationships or something. Do other people agree to that?
Of course perfect love stories aren’t always what happens in real life, but most movie love stories aren’t perfect anyway, i think. The couple has ups and downs just like a regular couple. Unless you mean romance movies, which i never watch anyways. I think romance by definition means that everything has to be happily ever afterJuly 29, 2011 2:57 pm at 2:57 pm #800584
The love in the movies is fake. That’s not love, that’s called LUST. If you don’t know what it means look it up. Hollywood tries to brainwash people into their ideas of what the ideal man and woman is and what the ideal marriage and life is. Remember, every time you watch a movie you submit yourself to 2 hours or more of Hollywood brainwashing or should I say brain dirtying!July 29, 2011 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #800585YW Moderator-80Member
you can call me 80July 29, 2011 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #800586zahavasdadParticipant
I realize for some they dont like to “waste time”
But what do you do when you want to do something relaxing without taxing your brain (ie after a long day at work)
I am sure some will say pull out a sefer, but this is not for everyone.
In the non-frum world some activies could be Tv, movies, sports , gardening, Fishing ,reading light material, other outdoors activies (Like boating, Running etc ) museums, video games etcJuly 29, 2011 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #800588kakoParticipant
am yisrael chai: Very well said, thank you!July 29, 2011 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #800589MichaelCMember
if you look in the Artscroll notes on Talmud Avodah Zorah it gives reasons (from well known commentators) that it is praiseworthy to not go to circuses and theaters—
i can’t remember what it said exactly, but it was something along these lines.
‘you may think that seeing comedy and drama ect, is stimulating, and makes you clever, but the verse in Tehillim and the Talmud say the opposite, these things undermine true wisdom, and waste time from Torah Study’.July 29, 2011 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #800590
wiy i really don’t care because i don’t watch movies for their reltionship stories. I don’t even pay attention at all to the relationship sub plots.July 29, 2011 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #800591zahavasdadParticipant
Todays Circuses and theaters are not the same as ancient times. In ancient times circuses and theaters were places of debutchery.
Todays circuses are made for kids, Clowns jugglers and acrobats very harmless. If you dont have a kid it doesnt even pay to go.
Theaters it depends on the show, There are shows that are perfectly clean like Mary Poppins or the Lion King and there are shows that are not.July 31, 2011 3:22 am at 3:22 am #800592
Would you eat a sandwich that is made up of kosher meat but ALSO has a slice of ham in it, but you aren’t interested in the ham, you pay no attention to it, but it just happens to be in the sandwich which you are eating?
(Its not a perfect analogy, because the movie can be assur and is not Kosher even if there is no nudity or no women in it at all)July 31, 2011 3:33 am at 3:33 am #800593
I’m a teen and I don’t watch movies 🙂 – does children’s movies watched at home once in a while count?
I think people who don’t have TV’s at home have a greater desire to wanna see what the world ”out there” is like.
I have a TV at home but barely watch anything.
Also, my parents taught us from when I was little of what’s ok to watch and what’s not ok and they didn’t make the TV be our babysitter.July 31, 2011 11:42 am at 11:42 am #800594mommamia22Participant
I would like to say one thing. I have noticed a difference, when watching shows/movies where couples argue with each other or act not nice (angry, chutzpadicke, etc) it does affect the way I interact with others. T.v. Is, in a way, like a teacher, that has our undivided attention, and it does influence us in a way that we may not always be aware of. There are childrens cartoons that I think are more innocent and benign, but if I felt more freedom to get rid of the t.v., I might opt to do so. I think children grow up better without the influence of t.v., and I would say that for just about anyone, Jewish or not.July 31, 2011 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #800595Doodle-Man™Member
i think that rating is stupid. if one age cant watch it why can another. everyone should just watch cleanJuly 31, 2011 4:04 pm at 4:04 pm #800596HachamMember
Which means even PG13 is horrible. There is a reason even the gentiles know someone under 13 shouldn’t watch it.July 31, 2011 4:23 pm at 4:23 pm #800597
My siblings (under the age of 13) watch PG 13 and I’ve never seen anything inappropriate on there – it’s a regular kids channel. Why is it ok for kids to read Arthur books but not watch it? The book uses the same language as the show and the show is rated PG 13.July 31, 2011 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #800598popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Why is it ok for kids to read Arthur books but not watch it?
I don’t approve of the Arthur books. They are full of boy-girl relationships, and also full of bad middos.July 31, 2011 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #800599HachamMember
There’s lots of inappropriate for what passes for PG13. There is good reason even the gentiles acknowledge viewership should be restricted even for PG13.July 31, 2011 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #800600
Arthur books are in bais yaakov libraries…July 31, 2011 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #800601twistedParticipant
My Rosh holds that “participating in goyish entertainment forums” is an issur d’oraisa. I was not meshamesh kol tzorchi, but the jist of what he said ruled out most “cultural” media and venues, and movies was a lo mibaye.July 31, 2011 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm #800603
Why is it ok for a rebbi to make something an issur d’oraisa if it’s not written in the torah?August 1, 2011 2:00 am at 2:00 am #800604bygirl93Member
i’m 18- and most of my friends feel the same way- we have had discussions about this amongst each other- everyone tells me it’s gonna change when i get back from sem- i’ll let you know if it does-
would i watch a movie? yes- but it depends on its rating and why its rated that
would i go to a movie theater? no! never!!
would i want a tv in my house? no!!!!!August 1, 2011 3:11 am at 3:11 am #800605brotherofursParticipant
Why is it ok for kids to read Arthur books but not watch it? The book uses the same language as the show and the show is rated PG 13.
r u sure it’s rated pg13? my parents let me watch it when i was litte, it was my favorite show and they Nevvvver let me watch pg13.August 1, 2011 4:43 am at 4:43 am #800607
r u talking about arthur Read and D.W and buster the rabbit and francine and binky ???????? and all those ppl bec they r not pg13, they r cartoons for kids. I watch g and pg but not pg13 unless its really for a dumb reason like its very scary like a harrypotter, so they cant make it pg bec. the younger kids would be scared, so they have to make it pg13. I also think that no one should watch pg13 and beyond that like r and unrated ……… because its bad!!!!!!!! so it doesnt matter how old they are they should never watch it!!!!!! but Im tryin to watch less and less and eventually stop! btw moderater I wanted my sub title as Daughter Of Hashem not oh hashem.August 1, 2011 5:36 am at 5:36 am #800608mommamia22Participant
How do you expect to watch a movie if you’d never go to a theatre and don’t want a tv? I don’t understand.August 1, 2011 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm #800609dunnoMember
Where did you get it from that Arthur is rated PG-13? It seems highly unlikely to meAugust 1, 2011 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #800610Doodle-Man™Member
mommamia22 computers and laptops have dvd slotsAugust 1, 2011 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm #800611bygirl93Member
i think kylbdnr might have gotten confused- arthur is on channel 13- pg 13 is something else- is that what you meant? because arthur would never ever be rated pg13
mommamia22- moskidoodle is right- and 1st of all i said i don’t want a tv in my house- doesn’t mean i don’t have one right now- even though i try very hard to ignore it- and ya i can watch on my computer- but there is so much more i’d rather do on it- so maybe i will end up not watching- but its more by defaultAugust 1, 2011 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm #800612EzratHashemMember
Although I allow my children to watch Jewish films, I worry that this is modeling the act of watching movies for entertainment, and while the content can be kept appropriate when they are young, at some point parents have no more control over content, but the child will have absorbed the idea that movie-watching is a good way to spend time.August 1, 2011 5:09 pm at 5:09 pm #800613StamperMember
What films are Jewish?August 1, 2011 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm #800614No One SpecialMember
Is the crowd here supposed to be yeshivish, with texting on shabbos, movies, every chumrah bashed? Pretty new here, thought this is Yeshiva world news….August 1, 2011 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #800615mikehall12382Member
“What films are Jewish?”
The Frisco KidAugust 1, 2011 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #800616
agent emes and light for grey towers the ladies film and al the imitations of goyish films like miri pops in instead of mary poppins….August 1, 2011 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #800617
No one special: Good question. I stopped reading the texting on shabbos thread since I think it borders on apikorsus. I don’t really comment too often anymore, simply because the crowd in here has veered to the left and there really aren’t too many people who are part of the “Yeshiva World” anymore. (Most of them either left or are lurking.)August 1, 2011 8:22 pm at 8:22 pm #800618No One SpecialMember
Thanks ovservanteen. So I’m not the only one here…August 1, 2011 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #800619TheGoqParticipant
yes I watch movies I’m hoping Capt. America will still be in theaters after tisha b’av.August 1, 2011 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #800620brotherofursParticipant
princess 17- but i still feel weird watching those things, like they have the many Jewish films for women that teach good lessons but i still feel like i’m wasting time and could be doing sm betterAugust 1, 2011 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #800621yitzman1Member
What I would like, is for someone to explain why it’s Mutar to take your kids to the see the Yankees/Mets play in middle of the summer, with half dressed women, drinking beer, singing and rooting for their home team but can’t go to a quiet theater, where its dark and watch a movie? And let’s say its too watch a clean movie…August 1, 2011 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #800622
brotherofurs true but if u want to relax in a ”kosher” way then at least it teaches you lessons.,but I personally am not a such a big fan of them bec I hate it how they dress up like men when everyone is ladies I just think its weird and also how they try to copy the goyish movie. just make a kosher one that doesnt have to do with goyish ones at all make up ur own plot and dont take it from a goyish source and try to make it kosher! btw what does ur name mean brother o furs ? i x get itAugust 2, 2011 12:43 am at 12:43 am #800623
Arthur is rated PG13 I just checked today when my sister’s watched itAugust 2, 2011 1:30 am at 1:30 am #800624kasherParticipant
Not really related but why is YeshivaWorld playing music during the 9 days?
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