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  • #1930310
    Health
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    Ubiq -““Then that will be the first time in history – that SCOTUS accepted a petition, but didn’t have a Court case afterwards!”
    “she’s lying”

    “Acc. to S. Powell it will,”

    “Yes but again, she’s lying”

    ” but her case wasn’t heard yet by SCOTUS!”
    “I’t wont be.”

    Ok; you say she’s Lying.
    So the cases she filed are King vs. Whitmer 20-815, & In Re Pearson 20-816.
    Ok – she isn’t Lying – You are!
    Now why would you lie?
    Are you Afraid she’ll win those cases?!?

    The best thing is for Congress to disregard the Electoral College and put Donald J. Trump as President for the Next Four Years!

    #1930463
    ubiquitin
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    Health

    “Ok; you say she’s Lying.”

    Can we agree that by jan 20, if she hasn’t released her evidence, she was lying when she claimed she had it?

    #1930471
    ubiquitin
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    Health

    “Ok; you say she’s Lying.”

    YEs, weeks ago she sad she would release evidence “soon”. “soon” has passed Therefore she is lying. period full stop.

    I get that you are delusional and enjoy redefining things so you redefine “soon” as at her supreme court case. (although I double checked dictionary that is not a definition) .But ok lets go with it.

    Would you concede that she was lying if/when her case isnt heard, Biden gets inagurated and she still hasnt released her evidence?

    “Now why would you lie?”

    I wouldn’t

    “The best thing is for Congress to disregard the Electoral College and put Donald J. Trump as President for the Next Four Years!”

    could be the best thing. But isnt going to happen

    #1930560
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    Ubiq -“could be the best thing. But isnt going to happen”

    How do you know what’s going to happen?
    Are you a Novi?

    “Can we agree that by jan 20, if she hasn’t released her evidence, she was lying when she claimed she had it?
    YEs, weeks ago she sad she would release evidence “soon”. “soon” has passed Therefore she is lying. period full stop.”

    Obviously you have No idea how Court Cases work!
    She doesn’t release her evidence to Liberals or to anyone, just to the Court.
    She made 2 court dates and she is a seasoned Lawyer, she obviously has evidence or why make Court Cases?
    Soon means at the time of her court cases.
    You obviously never went to a real trial!
    I’ve had a few.
    One of the first things they do – is make a scheduling conference. Eg. – Discovery is due by the latest – let’s say 01/20/21.
    The reason there is a Jury is to determine what’s True or Not!
    The Judge or Justices are the ones who determine the Law.

    #1930568
    ubiquitin
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    Health

    “Can we agree that by jan 20, if she hasn’t released her evidence, she was lying when she claimed she had it?
    YEs,

    Fantastic see you then!!!!

    Just to answer some of your questions that may be lingering until then

    “How do you know what’s going to happen?”
    I’m a smart guy, thanks to Trump university

    “Are you a Novi?”
    No

    “She made 2 court dates and she is a seasoned Lawyer, she obviously has evidence or why make Court Cases?”
    Attention, and to sow discord.

    #1930713
    emes nisht sheker
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    Anyone suggesting Powell is a seasoned lawyer who must have evidence has really been living in an alternate reality this past month. She should be evaluated for dementia, because clearly there is something very off with her.

    #1930935
    Health
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    Ubiq -“Attention, and to sow discord”

    Well then, she’s obviously doing a good job doing it!
    Trump met with her last week and also met with her Sun. Night.

    #1930939
    Health
    Participant

    ENS -“Anyone suggesting Powell is a seasoned lawyer”

    Well she worked as a Federal prosecutor in Texas.
    Did you?!?
    Now she works with Lin Wood on exposing the “Kraken”!

    #1930968
    ubiquitin
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    Health

    “Well then, she’s obviously doing a good job doing it!”

    No argument there.

    “on exposing the “Kraken”!”

    Perfect metaphor. The Kraken is a myth, it isnt real. but keep on waiting I’m curious to see wha you’ll say Jan 20

    #1931038
    emes nisht sheker
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    I am sure Powell was a wonderful and insightful person a little while back. Since then she obviously suffered a serious mental decline and is now saying crazy stuff. It is very sad. What I find interesting is how her mental decline has impacted many Trump supporters such that their mental facilities also failed and can no longer tell reality from fantasy.

    #1931100
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    The problem with you Libs is she claims she has proof that Dominion advertised, as an incentive to buy their machines, because it can change Outcomes of Elections.
    If she does & she can prove it happened with the Presidential election – Trump should declare Martial Law!

    #1931108
    ubiquitin
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    “If she does & she can prove…”

    And if she doesn’t….?

    #1931114
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“And if she doesn’t….?”

    Then you’re right. She lied.
    But don’t get your hopes up.
    I saw on News Max that there is a way for Trump to keep his presidency.
    If they get one Rep & one Senator to object to the Electoral College vote that gives them each 2 hours of debate.
    They can do this until January 18 – at that time the House will vote for President and the Senate for V.P.
    Each State is only allowed one (or 2) votes (even in the House).
    The Commentator claims that there are more Republicans than Democrats and Trump will be President.
    It’s gonna be Fun!

    #1936203
    ubiquitin
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    Health

    any updates?

    Where do things stand.

    Was she lying?

    Are we waiting for Jan 20?
    Do you still think she is going to the Supreme court?
    Are we waiting until she settles with dominion or gets ruled against in court for her baseless allegations?

    Thanks

    #1936285
    Health
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    Ubiq -“Do you still think she is going to the Supreme court?”

    The cases are still open.
    What I think will happen is that Chief Roberts will pressure the rest not to hear the case.
    If they don’t listen, there is a good chance Trump will be the Next President!

    #1936318
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “What I think will happen is that Chief Roberts will pressure the rest not to hear the case.”

    That could be

    I guess history is about to be made Rember when you said ““Then that will be the first time in history – that SCOTUS accepted a petition, but didn’t have a Court case afterwards!””
    and insulted me over and over?

    Man up and brace yourself to admit she lied.

    I’m asking when you will be ready

    I’m guessing January 6 isnt it
    January 20?
    (remember in November she said “soon” so we are reeeeeeaaaaly stretching things to accommodate you )
    surely if she gets sued and settles or loses youd have to admit?

    or still not

    #1936358
    Health
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    Ubiq -“Man up and brace yourself to admit she lied.”

    You keep demanding that I should post she lied.
    Why do you keep doing this?
    She said that there was Fraud in this Presidential election.
    She said she is going to SCOTUS.

    She is going to SCOTUS and I even posted the 2 case numbers here, because you were too Lazy to look for them yourself!

    Every news site & Politican that I’ve seen – admitted that there was Fraud, but claimed it wasn’t enough to Overturn the Election!
    Now who should decide it isn’t enough to Overturn?!?
    The Liberal Media or Politicans or you?!?
    How about the Supreme Court?!?
    That makes sense to me.

    #1936395
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    Health

    “Why do you keep doing this?”
    curious if you are able to. This is what draws me to YWn. Arguing over things with 2 different valid views is less interesting to me.

    Here we have a person who unquestionably lied. she said she would release here evidence on dominion “soon”. soon has passed, she didnt release evidence so she lied. PEriod easy

    to most people no big deal.
    Then you have people who can look at black and say white who can make up non-existent EMS protocols Who can say their inauguration rally was the largest ever. who can make up supreme court cases. who can say Trump didn’t incite a mob against the capitol. I find it fascinating .

    I’m not even sure what you lose by saying “yes she lied” that doesn’t mean there was no fraud, it isnt really conceding anything. She might even have the evidence, but hasn’t released it when she said she would “soon” (yes she doesn’t have to, but she said she would and didn’t that is a lie)

    “She is going to SCOTUS ”
    Again, no she isnt. My question is when would you concede that Jan 20? Jan 2022? are we going to wait till she retires? dies?

    #1936445
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -” who can make up non-existent EMS protocols”

    This I assume is referring to me.
    That I was a long time ago.
    I think you were referring to my posts on Car accidents?!?
    If you were, all my comments came from EMS books or magazines.
    I didn’t post their names because of Copyright Laws.
    You claim you’re a medical professional – did you ever treat a MVA victim in the street?!?

    “who can make up supreme court cases”

    The funny thing about All Liars is they think by repeating the lie over & over, that it becomes more believable!
    Either you never read my posts or you don’t understand them.
    I’ll repeat my post from before.
    Here is her 2 cases to SCOTUS:
    “King v. Whitmer, 20-815, and In Re Pearson, 20-816”

    #1936448
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    part 2

    see for me its easy

    If her case gets heard by the supreme Court. wow was I wrong. surprising but it happens. Not that big a deal
    At that point we will see if she lied when she said she had evidence (it wouldnt change the fact that she lied when she said she would release it “soon” which has long passed whcih is what started our conversation)

    But I did make a prediction, and if it turns out wrong it is wrong

    No big deal It is ok to be wrong. Granted, I’d be dying to know why she kept the evidence hidden until after The vote was finalized. Certainly not an intelligent decision, but at thsi point We arent expecting intelligence from her, but curious decision nonethless

    So if her case ever gets heard I was wrong.

    So my question for you. you beleive her when she said she has evidence that she will reelase “soon” you extend “soon” to be whenever the Supreme court case listens to her. (Though this is not a definition I’m familiar with, lets let it slide)

    If, in the likely event, the Supreme court never listens to her case. At what point would you grant tha she lied when she said she will release it “soon”

    #1936449
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “I didn’t post their names because of Copyright Laws.”

    There is no copyright law that prevents anyone from sharing the name of a book where something can be found .
    If there were every book with footnotes would be violating copyright laws. In fact the reverse is true. IF anything citing source protects you from a copyright violation

    I’m sorry for the digression. We don’t have to get distracted from thsi excellent thread. Lets keep our excellent discussions separate.

    “did you ever treat a MVA victim in the street?!?”
    no.

    Now your turn When would you grantthat Powell lied Jan 20? Jan 2022? are we going to wait till she retires? dies?

    #1936468
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq – “There is no copyright law that prevents anyone from sharing the name of a book where something can be found .”

    Another “No big deal It is ok to be wrong.”
    In other words – You Lied!
    I quoted from the book w/o permission. Therefore I didn’t write the name of the book.

    #1936494
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“No big deal It is ok to be wrong. Granted, I’d be dying to know why she kept the evidence hidden until after The vote was finalized”

    IDK what you are talking about.
    I just went to 20-815 and the Petitioners wrote on 12/15 the Evidence of Fraud about the Dominion machines.
    They brought down the Audit in Antrim County.
    This they wrote applies to all Dominion machines.
    This includes Georgia.
    Why do you keep Posting that they Didn’t present any Proof?
    Because you’re too Lazy to look it up or you are part of the Steal to convince Jews that there was No Fraud?!?

    #1936505
    emes nisht sheker
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    Someone needs to explain to Health that evidence you don’t present in court or evidence that is refuted is not worth much. Easy to say you have evidence on social media. Even Linsey Graham, a vocal Trump supporter called you delusional for believing these lies.

    #1936506
    ubiquitin
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    Health

    “In other words – You Lied!
    I quoted from the book w/o permission. Therefore I didn’t write the name of the book.”

    nope. I don’t lie. however you know less about copyright law than EMS protocols. There is no copyright violation for a small excerpt, and certainly not if you don’t quote verbatim, and certainly not if youve already said it, and now are just pointing to a source.

    If I tell you the first step when encountering an unconscious individual is to make sure the scene is safe . No copyright violation right?

    IF You say really? first I think you should put up some cholent. I’d say No Look at NYS’s Statewide
    Basic Life Support Adult and Pediatric Treatment Protocols ” Page 10. And then most people would say wow thank you for the source.

    No whiff of a copyright violation took place

    Look up “fair use”

    “Why do you keep Posting that they Didn’t present any Proof?”

    i was hoping for something more exciting than that, that was the kraken?

    #1936529
    Health
    Participant

    ENS -“Someone needs to explain to Health that evidence you don’t present in court or evidence that is refuted is not worth much. Easy to say you have evidence on social media. Even Linsey Graham, a vocal Trump supporter called you delusional for believing these lies.”

    That’s not the way works.
    If you are a lawyer, then your comment is trying to Manipulate e/o.
    If not, the Judges will decide the case, Not you.
    Just because Fink disputed it, doesn’t mean it’s Not Valid!
    I was once neighbors with Finks – I wonder if it’s the same guy.
    Anyways, the evidence was from a company that does Audits.
    They found problems with Dominion results, in Antrim County, Michigan.

    #1936538
    emes nisht sheker
    Participant

    Whatever… Was Fink one of the people who based on these idiotic lies engaged in sedition?

    #1936539
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“however you know less about copyright law than EMS protocols”

    I know EMS Protocols, whether you agree or Not!
    As far as laws go, I’m Not a lawyer even though I’ve done a few cases.
    So why would I take the chance on Copyright laws?
    I just stood away from any Problems.

    #1936540
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    Health as you know
    That report was widely discreditedand Ramsland has proven himself unreliable (couldnt keep his states straight)

    that said. I’m not interested in debating wehther or not fraud occured. As your mind is made up, and no ammount of evidence would convince you.

    Although it is possible that this silly disregarded claim was the kraken Powell had promised. so I guess I can’t fault you for not willing to concede that she lied. since arguably she provided evidence.

    You did call me a liar when I said her court case would never be heard. So we will have to wait for that.

    #1936645
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“That report was widely discreditedand Ramsland has proven himself unreliable (couldnt keep his states straight)
    that said. I’m not interested in debating wehther or not fraud occured. As your mind is made up, and no ammount of evidence would convince you.”

    Who are you talking to, me or yourself?
    Btw, Rudy says they just did a Forensic analysis of the election in Georgia and they found Fraud with the Dominion machines.

    #1936656
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “Who are you talking to, me or yourself?”

    whoever wants to listen so at this point myself. Hopefully nobody is reading this ridculous thread.
    You definitely aren’t interested in listening

    So thta leaves just me

    and the moderator I guess….Hi mods! thanks for letting me continue this strange hobby of mine

    #1939857
    ubiquitin
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    Health

    “She is going to SCOTUS and I even posted the 2 case numbers here,”

    As I told you over and over she isn’t going to the Supreme court- Her motion to expedite was denied on Jan 14

    To which you replied “Ok – she isn’t Lying – You are! Now why would you lie? Are you Afraid she’ll win those cases?!?”

    Do you still think a court case will take place? Or are we witnessing history in the making ““Then that will be the first time in history – that SCOTUS accepted a petition, but didn’t have a Court case afterwards!”” ?

    Now granted she will be sued for the lies she told (that you fell for) Though I doubt a court case will take place there either, she will probably settle.

    You may have seen the apology from Right wing American thinker:

    “American Thinker and contributors Andrea Widburg, R.D. Wedge, Brian Tomlinson, and Peggy Ryan have published pieces on www. AmericanThinker .com that falsely accuse US Dominion Inc., Dominion Voting Systems, Inc., and Dominion Voting Systems Corporation (collectively “Dominion”) of conspiring to steal the November 2020 election from Donald Trump. These pieces rely on discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories about Dominion’s supposed ties to Venezuela, fraud on Dominion’s machines that resulted in massive vote switching or weighted votes, and other claims falsely stating that there is credible evidence that Dominion acted fraudulently.

    These statements are completely false and have no basis in fact. Industry experts and public officials alike have confirmed that Dominion conducted itself appropriately and that there is simply no evidence to support these claims.

    It was wrong for us to publish these false statements. We apologize to Dominion for all of the harm this caused them and their employees. We also apologize to our readers for abandoning 9 journalistic principles and misrepresenting Dominion’s track record and its limited role in tabulating votes for the November 2020 election. We regret this grave error. ” *

    I’m so sorry you had to find out this way. I know how deeply you beleived her eyes and were hoping things would turn out different, and hoping that her obviously blatant lies would be true.

    Maybe Secret Supreme court will still hear her case?

    (* note no copyright violation 1) because I am telling you what I am quoting, if I pretended it was may own it MAY be copyright violation, 2) a small Quote like this is protected under “fair use”)

    #1939961
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“As I told you over and over she isn’t going to the Supreme court- Her motion to expedite was denied on Jan 14”

    LOL!
    You claim to be a doctor, but you can’t understand Simple English!
    When you deny a case to Expedite – doesn’t mean that they won’t hear it.

    #1939986
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    Health

    Got it
    so you still think they’ll hear it.
    correct?

    #1940019
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“Got it
    so you still think they’ll hear it.
    correct?”

    And why not?

    #1940041
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    Health

    “And why not?”

    They won’t as I’ve been trying to tell you for months.

    Even if someone was in denial until now. That denial should be gone. The Supreme court doesn’t hear cases that are moot, ie theoretical cases with no practical ramification (Article III section 2 of the constitution limits court’s scope to “cases & controversies” . Any election litigation is now theoretical Biden won (even if unfairly) There is a zero percent chance that the case will be heard.

    Zero.

    #1940054
    Health
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    Ubiq -“Article III section 2 of the constitution limits court’s scope to “cases & controversies””

    Look – I told you many times that the Goyishe Prophets predicted Trump will have a 2nd term.
    IDK how it will work out, but I don’t count them out – that they aren’t telling the Truth!

    #1940101
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “Look – I told you many times that the Goyishe Prophets …”

    I don’t care about Goyishe prophets

    You have said On more than one occasion, that she would have her case heard by the Supreme court . you called me a Liar when I said she wouldn’t .

    I’m curious if YOU have changed your mind.

    It sounds like you haven’t “but I don’t count them out – that they aren’t telling the Truth!”

    Do you mean you think Trump will get sworn in Jan 20 2021?

    I did see a report from Q that biden was arrested and his face switched with Trump, so that “Biden” who will get sworn in on Jna 21 is actually Trump. Thsi is why he will stutter alot becasue Trump is adjusting to biden’s voice . Is this your view?

    #1940110
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“I’m curious if YOU have changed your mind.”

    No, I haven’t!
    You have a very serious problem with any reality.
    I’m not going to check up on my posts because you say so – anymore!
    Because of your last post – I did check up on it.
    The SCOTUS case of 20-815 is still pending.
    To remind e/o that’s the election case against Michigan.

    I have no idea what will come next, but what I know is that you are a Compulsive Liar!

    “Do you mean you think Trump will get sworn in Jan 20 2021?”

    I have no idea.

    #1940164
    ubiquitin
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    Health

    Lol!

    did you really write both of these statements :

    “You have a very serious problem with any reality.”
    and
    “‘Do you mean you think Trump will get sworn in Jan 20 2021?’ – I have no idea.”

    Amazing stuff!

    Well I have an exact idea of what will happen next, and I don’t lie.

    The case “pending” doesn’t mean anything

    On Jan 20 (tomorrow) it will certainly be irrelevant (arguably it was irrelevant on Jan 6 or even Dec 14 (this is one argument made by the City of Detroit and the Governor in their briefs )

    This is why they were hoping for an expedition, it was denied.

    The case will not be heard.

    I’m sorry you have been relying on Goyishe Prophets. you really shouldn’t. youve been lied too, and sadly you can’t even see it.

    #1940183
    Reb Eliezer
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    Health, even giving you Michigan and Georgia, Biden still won.

    #1940193
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Biden won Michigan by 150,000 even with some fraud, he still won.

    #1940276
    charliehall
    Participant

    Biden’s Michigan margin would have been over 200,000 had it not been for the legally cast mail in ballots that Trump had the USPS fail to deliver. Maybe more. This was not a close election.

    #1940410
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“The case will not be heard”

    I think this is another one of your Manipulating Lies!
    Whenever I’ve been in Court, if they go through a motion & then a response – there always is a Judgment.
    Are you saying that they won’t give a Judgment?

    #1940432
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “Are you saying that they won’t give a Judgment?”

    Yes, that is exactly what I’m saying (and have been for > 2 months)

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