December 13, 2020 1:10 am at 1:10 am #1928071
Powell, prior to Nov 3, actually had a great reputation and track record. Obviously she suggesting the election was stolen, would, in your eyes, turn her into a blithering idiot. But the focus of my previous post wasn’t about her anyways. Google the article I referenced. Or dont, and remain willfully, and conveniently, ignorant.December 13, 2020 9:08 am at 9:08 am #1928134
To Health: 1. Learn the difference between profits and prophets.
2. If Trump continues in office on 1/20/21, I am off to Canada, or Israel, or somewhere where democracy is still alive.December 13, 2020 10:34 am at 10:34 am #1928141emes nisht shekerParticipant
S. Powell suggesting the election was stolen is not what turned into her into a blithering idiot, although it is a baseless claim so definitely irresponsible and a touch of a coup and sedition in there. What makes here a blithering idiot was her absurd claims that even resulted in Trump tweeting that she was not part of the legal team (I guess the crack legal team).
As to that article, while I am not an actuary and not as well versed in statistics as he is, his statistics seem flawed. For one he calls for an audit based on his analysis. The thing is both in Georgia and Arizona there have been hand recounts that validated the results. So you have your audit. Hence it seems clear his statistical modeling is not predictive and is most likely flawed. Now what might the flaws be. Well as polling, with its inaccuracies have shown, that targeted campaigns and numerous other factors can result in “swing” states going one way or the other. The thing is, many of the states that his analysis relies on, were known swing states going into this election. That they would not align with some regression analysis seems obvious. Otherwise polling would be near-perfect, which it is not. I am not saying that his claims are intentionally misleading, but clearly the don’t hold up when the actual results were audited. That tells me more than anything else that there is nothing further to consider. Btw, all he has really said is the result of the election does not align with his statistical model. Remind me how many election models did we have that have been off? If it is not clear that statistical models applied to election results are highly suspect, you have not been paying attention. If you have been here long enough, you have probably yourself poked fun at statistical models suggesting one result or another (see comments #1911482, #1911290, and #1913754, where you, yourself, point out how inaccurate polling is… not sure why you are all mesmerized now with a statistical analysis that when tested has been shown to have no predictive value).December 13, 2020 10:35 am at 10:35 am #1928139jackkParticipant
First, he is not an expert on election fraud. Or cyber security.
Read his bio. He is an actuary.
Second, he is wrong totally and completely. He is another blithering idiot. The simple facts are Biden got more votes.
Third, It was not written for lay people and cannot be easily understood. The headline was the main point of his rubbish.
Fourth, I wonder how much he was paid to produce this rubbish
Trump is taking in millions after losing!!!
Fifth, states are welcome to check and test the systems. But that does not mean that Trump won.
Sixth, all Republicans that signed on the SCOTUS suit should resign since they sincerely believe that they were not legally elected.December 13, 2020 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm #1928173charliehallParticipant
“I guess the crack legal team”
Maybe they were high on crack when they wrote their embarrassing arguments that keep getting shot down by right wing Republican judges.December 13, 2020 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm #1928175
Huju, what is your definition of “democracy”? An election fraught with statistical anomalies, and 0 transparency? Even if you all wanna close your eyes tight, and cry “no evidence of widespread voter fraud!”, do we not deserve at least a little transparency? Like why poll watchers in georgia were told to leave? An investigation into the alleged truck pulling up in michigan with biden only ballots? A usps driver claiming he was told to bring ballots from ny to pa? Usps workers told to backdate ballots? Ballots being returned before the date they were sent out?Perhaps a signature audit? An audit of all the machines? Can you please explain what your definition of “democracy” is?December 13, 2020 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #1928194emes nisht shekerParticipant
TVP – You have been repeating these claims as if you think the more repeat them the more merit they have. The thing is that in case after case when these allegations are actually put up to scrutiny they don’t hold up. There are over 50 cases that have been lost by those pushing these allegations and the judges in these cases include judges put up by Trump. Just maybe this evidence you keep on touting is not evidence rather just some claims that don’t hold up.
Your claims are just lacking credibility at this point.December 13, 2020 6:18 pm at 6:18 pm #1928200
In order that Trump should win, he would need more than two of the states GA, PA, MI, WS, AR overturned.December 13, 2020 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #1928276
saying there was election fraud is chanlenging democray as we know it! there is barely any evidence .December 13, 2020 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #1928277
their is no election fraudDecember 13, 2020 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #1928278
i like electon fraudDecember 14, 2020 1:22 am at 1:22 am #1928317
ens, can you refer me to one single “claim” i made in post #9128175 that doesnt “hold up”? I didnt make any “claim”. I simply cited affidavits, you know, the things you go to prison for when signing falsely. Most cases they have lost, they’ve lost due to lack of conclusive evidence. NO KIDDING WE DONT HAVE CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE WHEN WE ARE DENIED AUDITS ON THE BALLOTS AND MACHINES! The repeated rhetoric, “no evidence of widespread voter fraud”, is misleading, and (intentionally), missing the boat! No one is claiming “widespread voter fraud”. We are claiming TARGETED voter fraud. Like in 4 counties to be specific. And when people are signing papers subjecting themselves to perjury,and when bidens performance in some areas raise serious statistical concerns, it may not warrant overturning an election; BUT IS AN AUDIT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR??December 14, 2020 8:37 am at 8:37 am #1928388Abba_SParticipant
Was there voter fraud in the 2020 election? We will probably never know, because the Supreme Court didn’t want to rule on the case and found an easy way out by saying that the plaintiff had no standing.
This was even though there was a majority of conservative judges and Trump even appointed three of them. Even though the Democrats accused one of the judges of rape without any proof they still didn’t side with him.December 14, 2020 10:24 am at 10:24 am #1928415
To Torahvalves: My definition of democracy includes the requirement that majorities, or, sometimes pluralities, win elections. But that is not where you and I differ. We differ over the facts. You choose to believe the fairy tales promoted by Trump and his supporters. I choose to believe the facts reported by newspaper sources with hundred-year-old reputations for reporting the truth, e.g., The New York Times, or TV/radio news sources with 50/90-year-old reputations for reporting the truth, e.g., CBS news, NBC news.
And, fyi, regrettably few false affidavits result in jail for the affiants.December 14, 2020 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #1928492HealthParticipant
TVOP -“do we not deserve at least a little transparency?”
Unfortunately in the US of A, we don’t have Free elections anymore!
All those things that you posted are absolutely true.
I find it extremely funny that Chief Roberts has been called Conservative!
They say he rules with an Iron Hand.
It’s No wonder to me that the Election wasn’t Overturned!December 14, 2020 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #1928505
😅😅😅😂😅😂😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😂😅I choose to believe the facts reported by newspaper sources with hundred-year-old reputations for reporting the truth, e.g., The New York Times😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂this is why debating you guys is impossible 😂😅😂😅December 14, 2020 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #1928503ujmParticipant
To huju: The 50/90 year old reputations of the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CBS, ABC, and of more recent vintage, CNN, PBS, NPR and their ilk is of lying and falsehoods, covering up for nazism, blaming Israel, cursing America, hating caucasians, acting as the public relations arm of the Democrat Party, opposing morality and families and pushing far-left politics.December 14, 2020 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #1928555
To Torahvaluesover: I can’t argue with emojis. I guess you are right and I am wrong.December 14, 2020 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #1928614
No huju, what I choose to believe isn’t “fairy tales promoted by Trump and his supporters”-it’s video that I see, affidavits that I read, statistics that I read, hearings which I watch……and most importantly, it’s the response from government officials that I note. No effort whatsoever to convincingly counter the arguments out forth by those alleging fraud. That’s where I form my opinion on the election. Now you tell me that you form yours from what the new York Times feeds you? Give me a break!!December 14, 2020 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #1928620HealthParticipant
Abba_S -“Was there voter fraud in the 2020 election? We will probably never know, because the Supreme Court didn’t want to rule on the case and found an easy way out by saying that the plaintiff had no standing.”
There was tons of Fraud.
I answered the 2nd part already.
Here it is again:
“I find it extremely funny that Chief Roberts has been called Conservative!
They say he rules with an Iron Hand.”December 15, 2020 10:50 am at 10:50 am #1928744
Mitch McConnell just accepted Biden as the President Elect.December 15, 2020 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm #1928804
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