February 24, 2011 1:05 am at 1:05 am #595271
Is this true? I’ve got a teacher who teaches us Special Ed, I think she’s pretty normal (she really helps out hundreds of kids ranging from Public school to the most frum Jewish ones). But, I’ve also seen proffesionals who can seemingly use a proffesional themselves…. Just thinkin’. Is there some truth to this, or there are ppl who need them and ppl who don’t, no matter if they’ve got a degree?February 24, 2011 6:37 am at 6:37 am #744344HaLeiViParticipant
Maybe the truth to it lies in the idea that usually you aspire to be like someone you know and admire. So how did that psychologist get to know the psychologist he admired :?)February 24, 2011 6:43 am at 6:43 am #744345
Oooh. Thanks Halevi!! I thought this thread was going to die…. It’s a good thing you didn’t go to bed yet!
All right. This is my LAST post for tonight (morning).February 24, 2011 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #744346pumperMember
Is your Special Ed teacher a psychologist? If she is, shouldn’t she be teaching psychology and not special ed, which are two very different fields?February 24, 2011 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #744347rebbitzenMember
everyone needs a psychologist! and if you think you dont, think again! some people just talk to a friend or a rav or someone, but everyone needs a psychologist figure.February 24, 2011 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #744348
Huh? I don’t. (and this is after thinking again.)
Please explain why you believe that everyone needs a psychologist.February 24, 2011 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #744349
Unless you meant that a spouse/parent/friend can substitute the psychologist. In that case, I agree.February 24, 2011 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm #744350HealthParticipant
Not all shrinks are crazy, but a lot of crazy people become therapists for different reasons. One is to say -ya see I’m not crazy, everyone else is. I actually know someone like this.
There are a lot incompetent mental health professionals out there -be very careful when choosing one!February 24, 2011 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm #744351
“There are a lot incompetent mental health professionals out there -be very careful when choosing one!”
At best they can be a huge waste of time and money, at worst they can really mess your life up.
Be very very very careful.February 24, 2011 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #744352a maminParticipant
First of all their are a lot of them out there who are not PROFESSIONAL!!! Second, when you do find one that is qualified, you need to be able to listen and make changes and if not you are wasting your time, and money!February 24, 2011 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #744353EzratHashemMember
One problem is that mental health fields became a very popular career choice so now we have way too many “profesesionals” who need work. So there has to be a lot more diagnoses and patients in order for all of them to have parnassa.February 24, 2011 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #744354
I know of a great therapist who helps out a lot of ppl. But she seems to be a real difficult person. Her husband looks weary and wrung out as if he’s going through hell. Who knows?February 24, 2011 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm #744355TumsMember
I know of a great therapist who helps out a lot of ppl. But she seems to be a real difficult person. Her husband looks weary and wrung out as if he’s going through hell. Who knows?
She may be a witch at home.February 24, 2011 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm #744356Derech HaMelechMember
Quis psychologiet ipsos psychologes?February 24, 2011 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm #744357guy-ochoMember
Many if not most of psychologists and social workers needed a psychologist when they were younger. They had problems and for the most part got over it and now would like to help people out dealing with the same problems. Thats why most psychologists specialize in a specific mental health issue for this reason. (Such as if they had addiction issues they would specialize in that etc. This is actually beneficial for the patient as the therapist knows exactly what they are feeling, and know the steps to overcome the problem that have proven correct.February 24, 2011 9:32 pm at 9:32 pm #744358YW Moderator-80Member
for the most part got over it
i tend to doubt it.February 24, 2011 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #744359guy-ochoMember
Mod-80: you may be right on that point, however you can’t argue with all the logic and facts I presented besides that.February 24, 2011 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm #744360popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Quis psychologiet ipsos psychologes?
I’ll translate this; it’s mandarin.
It says: Quiet psychologists abuse psychology?February 24, 2011 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #744361YW Moderator-80Member
im not arguing on anything else you saidFebruary 24, 2011 9:59 pm at 9:59 pm #744362always hereParticipant
“I know of a great therapist who helps out a lot of ppl. But she seems to be a real difficult person. Her husband looks weary and wrung out as if he’s going through hell. Who knows?”
we know a great therapist who’s husband my husband has noticed a change in, at shul. we think it could be possibly an illness, cv’s. might the same be true in your case, as opposed to blaming the therapist? one would hope if she’s a ‘great’ therapist, she would be just as great with her own loved ones. not sayin’ that’s necessarily true, but it seems likely.February 24, 2011 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm #744363always hereParticipant
“Thats why most psychologists specialize in a specific mental health issue for this reason. (Such as if they had addiction issues they would specialize in that etc”
I don’t agree with your comment. I don’t think that, for the most part, therapists specialize in areas that they themselves needed help in. JMOFebruary 24, 2011 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #744364
Always here: I wouldn’t suspect that unless she did something wrong. She confronted my mother for something in an ugly way, and it just got me thinkin’….February 24, 2011 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #7443651dayatatimeParticipant
Every psychologist needs a Psychologist, is a very narrow minded idea, perpetuated, usually, by people trying to discredit the whole idea of therapy
Unfortunately, the idea of therapy is still stigmatic in our community, despite the number of people being helped by it, and changing their lives for the better
“Many if not most of psychologists and social workers needed a psychologist when they were younger.”
Really Now?February 24, 2011 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #744366gefenParticipant
When i was in college, i took a few diff psych courses. thought i’d be interested in going into the field. anyway, it was funny cuz, our abnormal psych teacher was really abnormal himself – really weird. our child psych teacher acted like a kid – sat on the desk with his legs in the pretzel position. it was like this with the other psych teachers as well.
i also happen to know a marriage counselor/ psychotherapist who was MARRIED THREE TIMES!!! well i guess she certainly has experience 🙂
so i guess since i didn’t end up going into this field, i must be pretty normal 🙂February 25, 2011 1:35 am at 1:35 am #744367mischiefmakerMember
The same way a doctor can get sick and doesn’t necessarily follow the most healthy diet, a psychologist can have an issue or not follow the advice he is giving to others.
Read Charades in Mishpacha family first.February 25, 2011 1:45 am at 1:45 am #744368
gefen: LOL!February 25, 2011 2:15 am at 2:15 am #744369HaLeiViParticipant
In a marriage there is the possibility of the one who understands people’s behavior to use it for their own benefit. Also, they can impose their own idea by implying that their own position is professional and far outweighs the other’s.February 25, 2011 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm #744370Derech HaMelechMember
Quis psychologiet ipsos psychologes?
I’ll translate this; it’s mandarin.
It says: Quiet psychologists abuse psychology?
Didn’t you ever hear the phrase “who will police the police?” I just took out the word for police and tried to put in psychologist.February 25, 2011 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #744371metrodriverMember
Rebbitzen; So, you’re saying (In your first post) (Paraphrasing).. Everyone needs a psychologist and if someone thinks they don’t need one, they REALLY need one. But the essence of what you’re saying (That everyone needs to express their worries and anger. Not keep it bottled up. And, speaking about it is therapeutic in itself.) is already discussed in the Talmud. ???? ??? ??? (Political correctness did not exist in Talmudic times.)?????? ?????? Meaning. If someone is worried, fearful or angry about a situation or event, they should discuss it with another person.February 25, 2011 4:28 pm at 4:28 pm #744372
I think that all we really need is a friend. I mean, what did people do before the days of psychologists, or at least, before EVERYONE had one?
Come one, most of us are pretty much okay. Of course we have our down days, but that doesn’t mean we need professional help. We just need a friend.
Be it a parent, a spouse, a sibling, anyone really who cares enough to ignore their phone for a while, and bother to understand what’s going on in our lives. (And no, texting “wasup” every couple of hrs don’t count, and neither is email.)
Just mytake on this.
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