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April 21, 2011 2:08 am at 2:08 am #596405popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Don’t be shy. Tell us.
April 21, 2011 2:09 am at 2:09 am #1012051HIEParticipantonce! i said vsain beracha the first time, and u???????!!!
April 21, 2011 2:19 am at 2:19 am #1012052Patur Aval AssurParticipant12
April 21, 2011 2:30 am at 2:30 am #1012053Flatbush DudeMemberI only said it once, even though I initially forgot vi’sain bracha. However, I caught on to my mistake (thanks to the guy davening next to me LOUDLY whispering “vi’sain bracha!”) and inserted it during shema koleinu.
April 21, 2011 2:31 am at 2:31 am #1012054WolfishMusingsParticipantOnce.
But I wouldn’t advise that anyone follow anything I do l’halacha.
The Wolf
April 21, 2011 2:41 am at 2:41 am #1012055GumBallMemberI didnt say it!!!lol
April 21, 2011 2:44 am at 2:44 am #1012056am yisrael chaiParticipantRemember to count Sefira, especially the women out there who do not go to maariv
April 21, 2011 3:00 am at 3:00 am #1012057mexipalParticipantmaariv was like a minefield so many things to remember
April 21, 2011 3:01 am at 3:01 am #1012058ItcheSrulikMemberTwice. You?
April 21, 2011 3:15 am at 3:15 am #1012059bombmaniacParticipanthad to repeat shmoneh esrei twice tonight 馃槢
April 21, 2011 3:15 am at 3:15 am #1012060yossi z.MemberOnce! So proud of myself!
馃榾 Zuberman! 馃榾
April 21, 2011 3:53 am at 3:53 am #1012061popa_bar_abbaParticipantI held out 4 fingers, and counted down as I said each things.
April 21, 2011 4:02 am at 4:02 am #1012062hello99Participantflatbush dude: sorry, but you cannot delete the words “tal u’matar” in Shema Koleinu.
April 21, 2011 4:13 am at 4:13 am #1012063yossi z.MemberHey! That’s a good idea!
馃榾 Zuberman! 馃榾
April 21, 2011 6:19 am at 6:19 am #1012064HealthParticipantPopa – You must daven Nusach S’fard, otherwise you’d hold out only three fingers.
April 21, 2011 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #1012065ItcheSrulikMemberI did that the second time.
April 21, 2011 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm #1012066Bar ShattyaMemberhealth-
you forgot to say atah chonantanu
April 21, 2011 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #1012067cherrybimParticipant“Remember to count Sefira, especially the women out there who do not go to maariv”
It is preferable that S’fardic women not count the omer. Most Ashkenazic poskim rule that women may count while they are not required to do so.
April 22, 2011 1:42 am at 1:42 am #1012068HealthParticipantBar Shattya – “health- you forgot to say atah chonantanu”
Either you don’t know how to read or how to count.
Let’s see if you’re davening Nusach Ashkenaz – Don’t say Morid Hatal so nothing to count. 1. Atah Chonantanu. 2. V’Sain Berocha
3. Yaleh V’Yawvoh
April 22, 2011 5:08 am at 5:08 am #1012069Bar ShattyaMemberhealth-
sorry buddy, you’ve got either two or four. if you want to count v’sain bracha it works exactly the same as l’hoshia mechalkel. Personally i suggest we count them both seeing as you have to repeat shmoneh esray for the lack of either omission.
April 22, 2011 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm #1012070JustHoldMemberBAR SHATTYA: you are tottally wrong here!
April 22, 2011 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #1012071popa_bar_abbaParticipantUm. I didn’t know this was going to cause an issue.
I daven ashkenaz.
I used a finger to remember to
1. not say mashiv haruach
2. say attah chonantanu (figured I may as well, once I’m doing fingers.)
3. not say tal umatar
4. say yaaleh vyavo.
I could possibly have used a 5th finger, to remember to say chag hamatzos in yaaleh vyavo, instead of rosh chodesh.
April 22, 2011 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #1012072Bar ShattyaMemberjusthold-
oh. oops. my bad.
April 24, 2011 4:05 am at 4:05 am #1012073HealthParticipantPopa -Didn’t think anybody needed a finger Not to say something. Oh Well!
April 24, 2011 4:19 am at 4:19 am #1012074chayav inish livisumayParticipant5 times. the first time i said mashiv haruach so i had to start again. the second time i said vsain tal umatar and forgot tpo correctmyself till the end. the 3 time i forgot yaaleh veyuvoh. Ans the 4th time i realized i was drunk so i had to start again. FINALLY ON MY FIFTH TRY I MADE IT!!!!!!!!!! 馃檪
April 24, 2011 4:22 am at 4:22 am #1012075Bar ShattyaMemberOf course you dont. the finger method is for forgetting things. you can forget all kinds of things
April 9, 2012 1:05 am at 1:05 am #1012076popa_bar_abbaParticipantnu
April 9, 2012 3:27 am at 3:27 am #1012077ckbshlMemberonce
but almost slipped on the fifth finger
April 9, 2012 8:04 am at 8:04 am #1012078YW Moderator-42ModeratorOnly once that counted. The first one I wasn’t yotzei so it didn’t count. So the answer to this question can be either zero or one.
April 9, 2012 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #1012079YW Moderator-42ModeratorShachris x3.
September 19, 2012 1:26 am at 1:26 am #1012080YW Moderator-42Moderator10/10!
September 19, 2012 1:56 am at 1:56 am #1012081147ParticipantOnce, and this includes my saying 2 Kaddishim on the Ommud + 2 mourner’s Kaddishim, each only recited once, getting “L’Eilo L’Eilo MiKol” correct 1st time around each time.
But I shan’t have to worry about saying L’Eilo twice by mistake after Yom Kippur, as I am terminating my 11 months of saying Kaddish in the middle of the Asseres y’Mei Teshuoh.
September 19, 2012 3:33 am at 3:33 am #1012082CuriosityParticipantOn a more lamdusheh note; why do some poskim hold you do NOT need to repeat shmoneh esre if you don’t have any kavanah during the first brachah (even though lehalacha you would need to repeat davening) because we say it’s not guaranteed you will have kavanah the second time around either, yet on the other hand we say you DO need to repeat shmoneh esre if you forget certain additions. Who’s to say that you won’t space out and forget them the second time around, too? Same Svarah, Different Davening…
September 19, 2012 6:48 am at 6:48 am #1012083haifagirlParticipant147: I am so impressed. You got the possessive before the gerund and the shan’t instead of won’t.
Wow!
September 19, 2012 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #1012084YW Moderator-42Moderator11/11 at mincha.
September 20, 2012 11:12 am at 11:12 am #1012085147ParticipantThank you Haifa Girl for your kind comments, especially if you are based in Haifa, where English is a foreign language.
September 20, 2012 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1012086Sam2ParticipantCuriosity: Different S’vara. The Poskim say that it’s almost a given that you won’t have Kavana anyway. But here, we see that most of the time most people get it right.
March 28, 2013 2:52 am at 2:52 am #1012087popa_bar_abbaParticipantThis year I only held out 3 fingers. I didn’t hold one out for attah chonantanu. Then I wondered why I wasn’t, and while I was wondering, I got up to there, and said it.
March 28, 2013 3:17 am at 3:17 am #1012088charliehallParticipantOnly once. But it helped that the rabbi announced immediately before the shemoneh esrei the four changes in the tefillah!
April 17, 2014 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm #1012089popa_bar_abbaParticipantTagging Mod 42
April 20, 2014 2:06 am at 2:06 am #1012090oyyoyyoyParticipantits not a joke, i really held out three fingers
April 20, 2014 2:24 am at 2:24 am #1012091I. M. ShluffinParticipantI always thought about highlighting either v’sein bracha or v’sein tal umatar, and I figured the bright yellow would make me think each time I said it, and remind me of what I’m supposed to say. But I never did it. And I haven’t messed up once this year! Of course, the machzor helps by not even giving me the choice to say the wrong thing. But I have to be looking in the machzor for that to work.
April 20, 2014 7:27 am at 7:27 am #1012092YW Moderator-42ModeratorI remembered to say melech oheiv tzedaka umpishpat rather than hamelech hamishpat tonight.
I also remembered to say v’lamalshinim. I’ll let popa_bar_abba tell us about all the special kavanos one should have during that bracha.
April 12, 2017 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm #1253626ChortkovParticipantBump
April 13, 2017 9:15 am at 9:15 am #1253806Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantHelpful Hint:
If you say 诪讜专讬讚 讛讟诇 during the summer months, it helps a lot to prevent forgetting.
If definitely helps during the winter:
1. If you start saying 诪讜专讬讚 讛讟诇, you are likely to remember to say 诪砖讬讘 讛专讜讞.
2. Even if you forget, you don’t have to repeat.In the summer, it is also a bit helpful, although less so. When I accidentally say 诪砖讬讘 讛专讜讞, I remember right away that I am supposed to be saying 诪讜专讬讚 讛讟诇, so even though I still have to go back, at least I don’t have to go that far back. And it is really unlikely that I’d forget the second time.
April 13, 2017 9:15 am at 9:15 am #1253807Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantPlease note: The minhag in EY (for both Ashkenazim and Sephardim) and for Sephardim everywhere is to say 诪讜专讬讚 讛讟诇 whenever we don’t say 诪砖讬讘 讛专讜讞.
This is not generally the minhag for Ashkenazim in chu”l. But I think it’s possible that they may be allowed to if they want to, so imho, it’s kidai to ask a sheilah to find out if you are allowed to, for the above reasons, especially if you find that you often forget.
April 13, 2017 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #1253975mik5ParticipantBH I got it right the first time.
April 13, 2017 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #1254126zaltzvasserParticipantBH I didn’t have to repeat it any times! I think that was a first for me.
LU, Chaim Berliners (who daven ashkenaz) actually do say 诪讜专讬讚 讛讟诇 (I really hope those don’t turn into question marks!).April 13, 2017 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #1254138adocsParticipantI know this is old, but maybe someone can explain this to me.
First Bar Shattya wrote…
health-
sorry buddy, you鈥檝e got either two or four. if you want to count v鈥檚ain bracha it works exactly the same as l鈥檋oshia mechalkel. Personally i suggest we count them both seeing as you have to repeat shmoneh esray for the lack of either omission.
Then JustHold wrote…
BAR SHATTYA: you are tottally wrong here!
Then Bar Shattya responds…
justhold-
oh. oops. my bad.
I’m not seeing how bar shattya is wrong, though he seems to be admitting to a mistake when he says “oops. my bad”
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