March 7, 2010 2:15 am at 2:15 am #591356
It’s been quiet here tonight so I decided to open a new thread. Everyone knows there is an inyan to have melava malka, is this an inyan, a mitzvah, a minhag?? And what is included
in it, mezonos or do I have
to wash?March 7, 2010 3:12 am at 3:12 am #681334mybatMember
I think its a halachah and the best is to wash for bread, its also a segula for an easy childbirth and for techiat hametim when mashiach comes.March 7, 2010 3:16 am at 3:16 am #681335YW Moderator-80Member
The entire body is nourished by whatever food is eaten whenever it is eaten.
Except the LUZ bone.
The luz bone receives it’s nourishment only from the food eaten at the Melaveh Malkah.
The luz bone is the bone from which the entire body is reconstituted at Techias HaMesim.
Good idea to keep it well nourished.March 7, 2010 4:08 am at 4:08 am #681336
IS it in the shulchan aruchMarch 7, 2010 11:41 am at 11:41 am #681337Be HappyParticipant
There is an elderly lady who lives here in England. She was in Aushwitz and worked by the ovens. She miraculously escaped and survived that terrible gehenim. She talks very little about her experiences. She does however impress the importance of eating melavah malkah. She says she could see on the remains of people who ate melavah malkah their luz bone survived.March 7, 2010 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #681338justvisitingMember
wow, i never knew that. definitely makes you think twice before skipping melava malka!March 7, 2010 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm #681340goody613Member
it started by dovid hamelech, dovid knew he would die on shabbos so after every shabbos he would make a seudah that he didn’t die.i’m pretty sure its in the shulchan aruchMarch 7, 2010 10:47 pm at 10:47 pm #681341oomisParticipant
(Hope I got this one accurately) – I heard that Dovid Hamelech learned on every Shabbos, so that he would not die on the day he knew he was destined to die, because the Malach Hamaves cannot take someone’s neshama while they are leaning Torah. So the Medrash tells us, on Shavuos, which was Shabbos also, he was learning and the M”H became frustrated because he was there to take D”HM’s neshama but he would not stop learning Torah and could not die. Finally, the M”H made a loud noise outside, Dovid was distracted from the learning, and at that moment the M”H took his life.March 7, 2010 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm #681342
Thanks everyone, if u have more to add please do so!March 7, 2010 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm #681344mybatMember
Maybe its not literally saying that the actual bone will get physically nourished. Maybe its in a spiritual sense.March 7, 2010 11:35 pm at 11:35 pm #681345JoseMember
So if someone calls you on your silliness, it is considered hypocrisy?
Do we find that there will bee tchias hameism for the non observant as well gentiles?
Aha, so it is different, in a metphysical sense.
Besides, what do you say to anecdotal evidence such as repeated by Estherh, I know you will say it is not proof, but your comment is even less because it is purely supposition.
BTW, what about frogs, is there tchias hameisim for them, do they believe in it?March 8, 2010 1:00 am at 1:00 am #681346HdeMember
do you need to wash and eat something hot or does any food qualify?March 8, 2010 1:09 am at 1:09 am #681347
Ur suppose to wash I don’t think it has to be hotMarch 8, 2010 2:01 am at 2:01 am #681348PeerimsameachParticipant
also shulesh shidees makes the luz bone stronger….i heard u cud eat a mezoinois and fullfill teh nourishing of the boneMarch 8, 2010 2:22 am at 2:22 am #681349Yanky55Participant
It IS mentioned in the Shulchan Aruch as something one should do…preferably by washing.
The Mishna Brurah says it is not an absolute chiyuv like the other 3 seudos of Shabbos, but rather is a “Mitzva B’alma”…..simply a mitzva that is a good thing to do.March 8, 2010 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #681350boredstiffParticipant
I always thought you had to wash and have something hot.please let me know if u really dont need both.
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