Now that Trump has been revealed…hope your NOT voting for him

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    I certainly hope there would not be any normal, frum, ehrlich sane Yidden voting for him in light of the recent recordings revealing and proving he is a disgusting lowlife.

    Washington Post revealed his immoral, offensive, insulting and aggressive attitues towards women and his lack of all morals.

    If this doesn’t deter us from making him our leader, what does that say about our values?

    #1187249

    Joseph
    Participant

    Nothing revealed over there past few days is any surprise or anything out of character of what has been known about the immoral Trump over the past thirty years.

    That said, Bill Clinton, whom Hillary has stood by and enabled his immoral activities for many decades including by her attaching the victims of Bill, is far worse than Trump.

    #1187250

    MDG
    Participant

    Unfortunately, the other main choice is no better.

    I plan on abstaining, if not writing in someone.

    #1187251

    Poster
    Member

    always runs with scissors fast, The clintons are guilty of the same.

    #1187252

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    I would never.

    #1187253

    Sparkly
    Member

    im voting for him h’h. whats wrong with him? sorry i havent gotten a chance to listen to his speeches anymore.

    #1187254

    akuperma
    Participant

    When was Trump anything else? When was Clinton anything else? They appear to be what they have always been.

    if you want honesty, principles, and somewhat not acting like a bully – vote for Johnson.

    #1187255

    hes still the better of the 2 as disgusting as he is she is way worse

    #1187256

    yehudayona
    Participant

    Johnson may be honest, but he’s way out of his depth. He’s totally clueless about foreign affairs. I’m trying to decide whom to write in.

    Joseph, Bill Clinton isn’t running for president any more than Melania Trump is.

    #1187257

    Lightbrite
    Participant

    always runs with scissors fast: AMEN & Thank you for posting!!! May it be so that this person is rejected completely by this country please with Hashem’s help.

    #1187258

    Sparkly
    Member

    johnson has a chance this time.

    #1187259

    Joseph
    Participant

    YY, the point is that Hillary has always, and still does, stand by her man in defending him from his vulgar actions against numerous women over multiple decades and Hillary has attacked Bill’s victims for daring to speak out against her man for the immoral wrongs he’s committed against his victims.

    Again, point being Hillary attacked these female victims of her husband, whose actions against them she’s defended.

    #1187260

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    If she hadn’t stuck up for him, he would have divorced her, and you know how terrible Rav Avigdor Miller said it is to get divorced.

    #1187261

    dbrim
    Participant

    LOL, Crooked. Seriously, scissors – spare us the moral posturing – Clinton is a criminal – she belongs behind bars. The video revealed NOTHING – Yes, Trump is a menuval, we knew that, so was Bill, but more so. Unfortunately this is how goyim talk and act and these are our pathetic choices for president. I’m questioning the way you express yourself – “all normal, frum, eirliche, sane yidden…” – what a fine way to talk about Yidden you disagree with! FYI, Most normal sane eirliche yidden here in E”Y are voting for Trump – you might want to re-examine your values – insulting Jews with a political perspective that differs from yours speaks volumes as does supporting a sonei yisroel like Clinton.

    #1187262

    american_yerushalmi
    Participant

    It’s a question of voting for the lesser rasha. Trump is mushchas who at least publicly stands for what is good for America. Clinton is a mushcheses who openly declares her intent and desire to bring down the U.S.A.

    We should vote for the one who will do the least damage to the U.S. and perhaps to the entire world. It’s fairly clear which candidate fits that description.

    #1187263

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    CrookedHillary – lol.

    Joseph – I thought the wife is supposed to be subservient to her husband…

    #1187264

    ubiquitin
    Participant

    Editors Note: Why YWN Will NOT Be Streaming The Presidential Debate Tonight

    If the actions/personality/speech/attitude of a candidate is so offensive that as a result of said candidate, a presidential debate (!!!) is deemed to be unfit for a yeshiva-website (a position thta is hard to argue with)

    I dont understand how anyone who describes themselves as belonging to said “Yeshiva world” can vote for such an individual.

    Say what you will about Hilary, and I’m not disputing that she too is a bad person. But as bad as she is, nothing she said has precluded her from being featured on a yeshiva website.

    #1187266

    american_yerushalmi
    Participant

    To Ubiquitin: Hilarious is no less spiritually degenerate than Donald. But, being a woman, she has not allowed herself to speak in quite the same manner as 2 guys who thought no one was listening. Which teaches us something important: “The microphone is *always* on….”

    Have mercy on the U.S.A. and the rest of the world by keeping Hilary-ous out of the White House. Right now, the only, and rather distastful way to do it is to vote Trump.

    #1187267

    huju
    Participant

    In answer to the opening poster’s question: Frum Jews who support Trump after hearing Trump describe his assaults on women within his grasp are, to steal a phrase, fake phony frauds. Maybe you have been fooled into thinking he is a great businessman (he’s not), or a tax expert (his accountant is, but he’s not), or just enormously smart (he’s not even close), but being so mistaken about those things does not make you reprehensible. But if you heard the tape of his descriptions of his own assaults on women, and still think he deserves the support of a frum Jew, you are egregiously wrong.

    #1187268

    tiawd
    Participant

    I can understand frum Jews who will vote for Trump because they believe he’s better than Hillary, but how can any decent frum person like him?!

    #1187269

    ubiquitin
    Participant

    americanyerushalmi

    “But, being a woman, she has not allowed herself to speak in quite the same manner as 2 guys”

    Um that makes her “less spiritually degenerate” Even in the imaginary world where the two are “equally spiritually degenerate” that one can say wh ta he says makes him worse.

    “Hilarious is no less spiritually degenerate than Donald”

    B’seder so dont vote hillarious.

    huju

    very well put

    #1187270

    tiawd

    we don’t like him hes just the better of the 2 but they are both worse then cruz

    #1187271

    Health
    Participant

    Huju -“Maybe you have been fooled into thinking he is a great businessman (he’s not), or a tax expert (his accountant is, but he’s not), or just enormously smart (he’s not even close), but being so mistaken about those things does not make you reprehensible”

    Question – What has Hillary accomplished?!?

    As first lady she embarrassed V. Foster & a week later he killed himself!

    As Secretary of State – she ignored the seriousness during the crisis in Libya, causing Americans to die, including the US ambassador!

    Now as President (Lo Aleinu) – she can turn us into another Europe – with all their terrorist attacks!

    Hurray!!!

    #1187272

    huju
    Participant

    Reply to Health: Hillary was an effective US senator and secretary of state. Those are accomplishments. The baloney about her responsibility for the deaths at Benghazi is, well, baloney. And her connection to the death of Vince Foster is nonsense.

    I don’t like Hillary for a lot of reasons (mainly her arrogance and bad decisions about using her own e-mail server – which is irresponsible but not criminal), but Trump is incompetent, petulant, childish, and disgraceful. There are 2 and only 2 choices in this election, and Trump is by far the worse choice.

    #1187273

    2scents
    Participant

    Is it a crime to delete emails (33,000 of them) after getting a subpoena?

    #1187274

    147
    Participant

    In view of the upcoming ???-????? ?????-????? ????? I shall definitely be voting for President Donald Trump, so as to blockade & preclude the possibility of Hillary placing any immoral debased judges on the supreme court Heaven Forbid.

    As recently as last nite’s presidential debate:- Hillary was so full of “Lie Lie Liar”. Meanwhile, for the entire debate, I could not find 1 word of ??? from President Donald Trump, for the entire duration of the debate.

    I don’t care what President Donald Trump said 11 years ago in a locker room. I care about America’s future, and am sticking to the important issues, and shall not be sidetracked by this 11 year old non-consequential remark.

    This election, the choice couldn’t be clearer:- Vote President Donald Trump, and save & pave the way {quote from 1st verse of the upcoming ???-????? ?????-????? ??????} for America to have a Glorious future.

    #1187275

    oomis
    Participant

    I don’t like what Trump said. It was crude, vulgar, nivul peh of the highest order. BUT – he did not do what Bill Clinton did while in office. And unlike Hillary, he did not call a bunch of special needs children “ree-tards” or curse at secret service people or other White House personnel on a regular basis. For every crude thing Trump has said, there is a wealth of vulgarity and criminality on the parts of the Clintons.

    I don’t love Donald Trump. But I absolutely cannot abide that woman.If this was the best person our country could find to run as the first female presidential candidate, it is uch and vey. We are in trouble no matter who is elected. But I am hoping if The Donald makes it, that Mike Pence will be the mitigating factor. Tim Kaine is just scary.

    #1187276

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    5% matters.

    #1187277

    Health
    Participant

    huju -“Reply to Health: Hillary was an effective US senator and secretary of state. Those are accomplishments. The baloney about her responsibility for the deaths at Benghazi is, well, baloney. And her connection to the death of Vince Foster is nonsense.

    I don’t like Hillary for a lot of reasons”

    Why isn’t she responsible for the death in Benghazi? The job of SoS is to protect those under her and e/o knew about the siege in Libya?!?

    Also she embarrassed Foster in public a week before his suicide!

    Do you believe in the Torah that says embarrassing s/o is equivalent to killing him?!?

    #1187278

    MDG
    Participant

    ” And her connection to the death of Vince Foster is nonsense.”

    DOZENS of people in Arkansas who were connected to the Clintons have seemed to commit suicide or were killed.

    Google the word arkancide

    #1187279

    Matan1
    Participant

    Health, people don’t commit suicide because they were embarrassed. It’s a terrible misunderstanding of the nature of depression.

    Besides, do you really think that Trump has never embarrassed anyone before?

    #1187280

    chizuk1
    Participant

    Wait, you mean he was revealed as a “Goy?”

    Wow. That wasn’t news to me, last I checked.

    #1187281

    TheGoq
    Participant

    In the words of Secretary Clinton “at this point what difference does it make”?

    #1187282

    thebabbler
    Member

    many people have taken their lives after great embarrassment

    #1187283

    Health
    Participant

    Matan1 -“Health, people don’t commit suicide because they were embarrassed. It’s a terrible misunderstanding of the nature of depression.”

    Stop coming here to post your anti-Torah view!

    You obviously don’t believe in the Torah that says embarrassing s/o is equivalent to killing him!

    And anyways the FBI said this about Vince Foster, not me!

    From the Washington Times: (Not the National Enquirer)

    #1187284

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Oomis, why does it matter that Donald Trump was not in office at the time that he did what he did?

    #1187285

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    My guess would be that if someone is a wonderful emotional state, they won’t commit suicide after being embarrassed, but if they are already depressed, it might be a contributing factor.

    In general, we have no idea what the effects of our words and actions are, for good or for bad, and we have to always be extremely careful about everything we do. There are many stories of people who were about to commit suicide and changed their minds at the last minute because one person was a bit friendly to them at the right moment. Even if you are not preventing a suicide by being friendly, you may uplift the person’s mood and he may then prevent someone from committing suicide or he may make a life-altering decision.

    We cannot fathom the effect of our simple actions!

    #1187286

    Matan1
    Participant

    Health, of course I believe in it. I just don’t believe it to be literal. Bais Din doesn’t use the death penalty as a punishment for embarrassing someone.

    And you didn’t answer my question. Has Donald Trump never embarrassed anyone?

    #1187287

    Health
    Participant

    LU -“Even if you are not preventing a suicide by being friendly, you may uplift the person’s mood and he may then prevent someone from committing suicide or he may make a life-altering decision.”

    Anybody can uplift my spirits by finding me a Shidduch!

    #1187288

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    But you’re a Trump supporter.

    #1187289

    Health
    Participant

    Matan1 or should I say Charlie -“And you didn’t answer my question. Has Donald Trump never embarrassed anyone?”

    Yes he has. Unfortunately for you – you never learnt in a real Yeshiva!

    There’s a difference between types of embarrassment!

    Malbin Pnei Chavero is worse!

    I’ll repeat what I posted before:

    It wasn’t me!

    #1187290

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Health – just a word of advice if you really want people to set you up – maybe you should try working on how you address other people. You are entitled to disagree with others, but it can be done without personal affronts such as “You never learnt in a real Yeshiva!”

    #1187291

    yehudayona
    Participant

    Google International bankers conspiracy. It has long been a favorite theme of anti-semites.

    #1187292

    lilmod ulelamaid,

    It is doubtful you or any of us are aware of Health’s identity

    &

    It is doubtful if he is like in in the real world

    yehudayona,

    How about the wikileaks showing Hillary’s interest in aliens?

    #1187293

    Health
    Participant

    LU -“Health – just a word of advice if you really want people to set you up – maybe you should try working on how you address other people. You are entitled to disagree with others, but it can be done without personal affronts such as “You never learnt in a real Yeshiva!”

    No one asked you for your advice! Don’t be such a know-it-all!

    I’ve been here a long time and so have other posters, so I make comments that are geared towards them!

    You just joined the CR, but you think that you know-it-all!

    Have you ever heard – Siyog L’chocmah Shtikah?!?

    #1187294

    Mussar47
    Member

    Hillary is a sonei Yisroel and if she has health issues and cannot finish out her term, Kaine is an even bigger sonei Yisroel.

    This is a major issue to be concerned about. Both candidates are not “role models” in any shape or form but Trump will be proIsrael and that is something we must keep in mind.

    #1187295

    yehudayona
    Participant

    Truth, Hillary’s interest in aliens (the kind from other planets, not the kind from other countries) is merely weird. Trump’s blaming a cabal of international bankers is scary. B”H I’m not voting for either of them.

    #1187296

    Softwords
    Participant

    When Hashem created the world for man he created a Malach called Satan who’s job it is to prevent man from serving Hashem. Satan asked Hashem, “Why do you want me to try to stop them from serving you”? Hashem replied, “So that they will receive reward by listening to me and not you”. “How shall I stop them from doing mitvot?”, ask Satan. “Get them occupied with pursuing their desires”, responded Hashem. The Satan then asked, “…but how will I get them to stop learning your Holy Torah? After all, it brings incredible joy to whoever toils in it and each word makes them holy! Besides the reward in Olam Habah is unimaginable! What in the world could I ever use to draw them away from learning Torah?!” “Simple…”, retorted Hashem, “Politics”!

    #1187299

    yeshivishe kup
    Participant

    right now theres a guy named evan mcmullin, whos trying to pull off a write in campaign. he seems like a great guy, just no one knows him. look him up and check out his website…..

    #1187300

    Health
    Participant

    YK -“right now theres a guy named evan mcmullin, whos trying to pull off a write in campaign. he seems like a great guy, just no one knows him. look him up and check out his website”

    Right now – e/o is bias against Trump. But he’s the only one that has a real chance of beating Hillary!

    If she wins, you can count on more killing of babies, even in the ninth month!

    Also, we’ll be just like Europe, with all their Muslims and their terrorism!

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