January 4, 2016 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm #1122770
reb yidd –
Knives – illegal you can kill a person
Carrot family (poison hemlock is a plant of the carrot family and none of the plants in the family are good medicine) – the posion one should be illegal obviously the other ones the healthy ones are good for people should definitely be legal
SSRIs – overdose illegal can kill a person
Wood – legal you need it to build a house
Bananas – should be legal because their healthy and have calcium
Marriage – brings people into the world and multiply – piru urivoo Hashem commanded us to have kids
Tea – illegal if smoked definitely legal if drank properly makes someones throat stop hurting
Fire – legal need it for havdala chem lab (dont know why they love bunsen burner) menorah shabbos candles cooking many good things etc
Cotton – illegal it can kill
Cars -legal how do you expect to get anywhere without walking for an hour?
Pokeberries – illegal can killJanuary 5, 2016 12:45 am at 12:45 am #1122771
There is no such thing as medical marijuana. It’s either marijuana or medicinal cannabis.January 5, 2016 1:12 am at 1:12 am #1122772
MsPrincess, that makes no sense.January 5, 2016 1:39 am at 1:39 am #1122773
Princess: besides for all the other parts of your non-sensical post I’d expect an acedemic genius studying bio-chemistry and what not to know that bananas have zero calcium.January 5, 2016 1:49 am at 1:49 am #1122774
why not? prove why it doesnt make sense.January 5, 2016 1:50 am at 1:50 am #1122775
Moi Aussi, I am guessing you you are from down under
In the US its called Medical Marijunana not Medicinal CannabisJanuary 5, 2016 1:54 am at 1:54 am #1122776Matan1Participant
MsPrincess, are you serious?January 5, 2016 1:57 am at 1:57 am #1122777
Pot is known to help with Glaucoma and something called wasting disease. When you get Chemo, many people lose their appetities and cannot keep food down. Pot helps you maintain your appetite and keep your food down without nauseaJanuary 5, 2016 2:02 am at 2:02 am #1122778
MsPrincess, I use knives to cut food. You say they should be illegal. I wear cotton clothing. And many birds eat poke berries and it is an important food source for them. It’s poisonous for humans, but does that mean we should starve the avians?January 5, 2016 2:04 am at 2:04 am #1122779
the people i know with these diseases you keep listing are anti pot so your not proving anything.January 5, 2016 2:08 am at 2:08 am #1122780
zahavasdad, I don’t know where “down under” is, but I do know that it sounds condescending.
The term “Medicinal Cannabis” is used in US
Nana is mint tea (you wrote mariju nana)January 5, 2016 2:28 am at 2:28 am #1122781
And again since you apparently missed my post, bananas have zero calcium.
Please — regarding the other thread — your debating skills are not all that great so don’t over-estimate yourself.January 5, 2016 2:48 am at 2:48 am #1122782
Msprincess is a fresh energetic kid. At least by me. Maybe we can cut her some slack
Bananas have 8 mg calcium per cup. Not much. But it’s not zero. And bananas are very helpful in the absorption of calcium from other sources. So there.January 5, 2016 2:49 am at 2:49 am #1122783
The people I know who smoke pot are just naturally retards so you’re not proving anything.January 5, 2016 2:51 am at 2:51 am #1122784frumnotyeshivishParticipant
Let’s get something straight here: Using “Marijuana and its cannabinoids” is blatantly illegal everywhere in the USA (with the exception of prescribed schedule III FDA approved derivatives like Marinol). See controlled substances act.
The fact that our president instructed his underlings not to enforce this law (among others) in states which have passed (constitutionally meaningless) laws to the contrary does NOT make it legal. EVEN if a person has glaucoma, ms and terminal cancer.
The fact that it is unquestionably illegal means that should Obama or a subsequent president change his mind, these offenses technically MAY be prosecuted. It would be a highly unlikely that retroactive prosecution would occur as it would be unpopular and perhaps political suicide for the decider. But it is a technical possibility.
RICO (a tool designed to help the feds bring down careful mobsters) includes any enterprise which involves racketeering. Included in racketeering is any violation of the controlled substances act. It has a 10 year statute of limitations. It could also have ramifications in civil court.
RICO could perhaps, in theory, be extended to members of OU affiliated synagogues. Technically. I’d estimate the odds of such a thing happening as slightly less likely than PBA secretly being Donald Trump.
Doesn’t change the fact that the OU is engaging in clear and incontrovertible criminal behavior which may, in theory, subject its members and affiliates to criminal consequences.
Using Marijuana tends to make people happier (in the short term), hungrier, dumber, and more irresponsible. There are most definitely situations where the pros of use outweigh the cons. But it is never legal anywhere in the USA. I’m not saying chiddushim here.
Joseph- jaywalking tends to be a violation of Regs or Ordinances. Not a “crime” as most people would define it.January 5, 2016 2:55 am at 2:55 am #1122785
reb yid – that is true their are natural retards and usually retards who are otd no offense to people who are otd. (i doubt there are any on here.)January 5, 2016 3:01 am at 3:01 am #1122786
Bananas are known for being high in potassium and magnesium, which I rememebered — and while helping with calcium absorption they’re not calcium itself — so I googled it and Google said zero calcium. Maybe they rounded it down, but that’s my source. What’s yours?
The reason many of us are not cutting her some slack is because she’s bragging about her academic prowess and knowledge. Being humble is a nice Jewish virtue.January 5, 2016 3:07 am at 3:07 am #1122787
If you want to makarev someone who is OTD, Calling them a retard is not the best way to go at itJanuary 5, 2016 3:11 am at 3:11 am #1122788
My source is personal knowledge. I’m an academic genius.
But Google properly please. Google: “calcium content of bananas”
Let me know what you getJanuary 5, 2016 3:17 am at 3:17 am #1122789
mammele – i am humble i call people smarter than me very smart and i call myself dumb all the time just not on my posts.January 5, 2016 3:25 am at 3:25 am #1122790
I made a mistake it is made out of the following either way its healthy for you. Bananas are good sources of many vitamins and minerals, such as vitamins B6 and C, and the minerals copper, potassium and magnesium. In 100 grams of this fruit, there are about 358 milligrams of potassium.January 5, 2016 3:30 am at 3:30 am #1122791charliehallParticipant
“i have yet to meet someone pro marijuana who didnt take it themselves”
I have never smoked marijuana but think that it should at least be legal for medical uses. And the argument that it should not be legal for anyone is a pretty flimsy one given that alcohol and nicotine, which are far more deadly, are legal.January 5, 2016 3:32 am at 3:32 am #1122792
I think the yeshiva world – moderators should make sure others are being nice to others it doesnt make sense that people have to stand up for themselves or others when this is suppose to be a nice jewish site.January 5, 2016 3:32 am at 3:32 am #1122793
So you’re not proving anything when you say it makes them stupid. It’s the other way around, and the reason only stupid people do is because it’s illegal and can get them put in jail.
By the way, how am I supposed to cut my food?January 5, 2016 3:44 am at 3:44 am #1122794
Calling yourself dumb is not humility, it’s self-deprecation, which is often practiced by people who wish to be praised by others because they need it to feel good.January 5, 2016 3:54 am at 3:54 am #1122796
Some reliable googling:
Most states consider jaywalking a petty misdemeanor, the most lenient type of misdemeanor. Generally if not ignored, it is punished with a fine around or less than $100. But a violator is subject to arrest and sentencing up to six months in jail and a substantial fine.
It is not a felony but it is technically a crime. You’re right people don’t think of it in the sense of being a criminal act. But it is, under the law. Wasn’t that the basis of Joseph’s point.January 5, 2016 4:09 am at 4:09 am #1122797
the reason why it makes them stupid is because their losing brain stem cells when taking it. do you know anyone who has gone on marijuana?January 5, 2016 4:36 am at 4:36 am #1122798
Okay, so you didn’t approve my post.
I’ll just say this: I apologize Princess, bananas do have a little calcium, but as you mentioned above it’s healthy in many other ways.January 5, 2016 4:53 am at 4:53 am #1122799
MsPrincess, you still haven’t explained how I’m supposed to cut my food if knives are illegal or why hemp and cotton should be illegal.January 5, 2016 5:12 am at 5:12 am #1122800
Thats what i was saying.January 5, 2016 5:51 am at 5:51 am #1122801
What were you saying?January 5, 2016 5:51 am at 5:51 am #1122802
What were you saying?January 5, 2016 6:10 am at 6:10 am #1122803technical21Participant
My mother took the pill form of marijuana for medical purposes, as prescribed by her doctor. She said that it made her jittery and nervous, and she couldn’t function normally. That being said, I do believe that medical marijuana should be legal. For other uses? Not so much.
MsPrincess- as stated by other users, there is a vast difference between humility and self-deprecation. Not that you’ve been trying to use self-deprecation too much here, unless you’re called out for being full of yourself.January 5, 2016 8:44 am at 8:44 am #1122804
i was saying how bannanas are healthy for people.January 5, 2016 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm #1122805
Down Under is the nickname for Australia, it is not bad at all.
Aussi or some similar spelling is the nickname for people from AustraliaJanuary 5, 2016 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #1122806
No, I’m not Australian, I’m from a French-speaking country where “moi aussi” means “me too”.January 5, 2016 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #1122807
I really thought your name Moi Aussi meant I am AustrallianJanuary 5, 2016 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #1122808golferParticipant
Sorry to join a long thread without reading all the posts above but I’m-
Without a doubt, the chemicals in marijuana have health benefits.
What I don’t understand is-
Antibiotics, anticonvulsants, antihypertensives, beta-blockers, hypoglycemics- all of these (and many others) also have health benefits. Does the OU give kosher certification to any of these?
When Mrs Elderly Bubbie goes to Shmerel’s Pharmacy, does she ask for the heart meds with the OU? Does Mr Kollel Yungerman, shopping at Lakewood Drug Emporium, request the antibiotic with an OU for his three year old who has an ear infection?
What exactly was the OU trying to accomplish here?January 5, 2016 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #1122809
FNY – “Doesn’t change the fact that the OU is engaging in clear and incontrovertible criminal behavior which may, in theory, subject its members and affiliates to criminal consequences.”
Who cares? The way this country is going – they’ll never even prosecute the actual Pot users!
And you’re talking about prosecuting members of Shuls? What stuff are you smoking? It’s not Pot, because Pot doesn’t make you that crazy!January 5, 2016 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #1122810
Golfer -“What exactly was the OU trying to accomplish here?”
Simply, to make a buck!January 5, 2016 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #1122811Avi KParticipant
Golfer, I have seen laundry detergents thath ave hechshers even though they also warn against consuming them. I even saw “glat” lettuce and “glatt” freezer bags.January 5, 2016 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #1122812apushatayidParticipant
“this is suppose to be a nice jewish site.”
hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!January 5, 2016 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #1122813apushatayidParticipant
“Simply, to make a buck!”
As the saying goes. There is too much cash is cashrus.January 5, 2016 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #1122814Bored_on_the_JobParticipant
“I have seen laundry detergents thath ave hechshers even though they also warn against consuming them.”
In case you need to use your dryer to heat up your leftovers…
Although detergent is probably nosein tam lifgam…January 5, 2016 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm #1122815
i agree its to make money but it still is wrong.January 6, 2016 12:19 am at 12:19 am #1122816oyyoyyoyParticipant
MsPrincess, i highly doubt someone overdosed on weed. Even if it’s true that they did i promise you more people die from drinking too much alcohol than taking too much maraj.January 6, 2016 2:35 am at 2:35 am #1122818
Ms.Princess -“i agree its to make money but it still is wrong”
Why is it wrong? They’re not saying break the law, in the states that it is illegal. It’s just like giving a Hechsher on booze!January 6, 2016 4:01 am at 4:01 am #1122819Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
MsPrincess: Before you conclude that there are no signs on intelligent life in the CR, I will assure you that I got your point. The counterargument against the “alcohol and tobacco are legal” argument is that pot has only one use. You can have a glass of wine with dinner, in fact, my doctor recommends it. You can smoke a cigar when you have a baby. You don’t smoke a casual joint with dinner. You smoke it for one reason, to get high. To those using the alcohol and tobacco argument, may I ask, to what end will you take that? Once pot is legal will you say now we might as well legalize cocaine? Then opium? Heroin? That’s what happened in Holland.
MsPrincess, my suggestion to you is to stop trying. People in the CR don’t change their minds, ESPECIALLY not the liberals. The pro pot crowd is made up of unrepentant druggies and people who have never known someone who suffered from the drug and thus are completely clueless.January 6, 2016 1:39 pm at 1:39 pm #1122820
NC -” The pro pot crowd is made up of unrepentant druggies”
I want to make it clear that I’m against legalizing Pot and I find it discusting the states that did.
Even in NYC the cops ignore Pot smoking.
I was just defending the OU and their right to give a Hechsher on the Pot!January 6, 2016 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #1122821This name is already takenParticipant
why cant OU give a hechsher, if its kosher its kosher..
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