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  • #1214529
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Actually, I think there should be a DE, I just don’t think we can kill them on that one.

    I think their position on English Muffins doesn’t make sense; I have written about this before. Maybe it’s because they’re zionists.

    #1214530
    apushatayid
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    Or English.

    If something is truly DE and someone eats it for dessert of a fleshig meal all is OK. If the formula changes and it is truly a dairy product and one erroneously thinks it is DE is in my opinion a bigger problem than something which is truly DE but has a D and is never eaten until waiting the appropriate time.

    This is a response to someone who wrote the OU doesnt use Pareve. I dont know their guidelines, but I am staring at packets of splenda and sweet and low both of which are labeled OU pareve.

    #1214531
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    If the formula changes and it is truly a dairy product and one erroneously thinks it is DE is in my opinion a bigger problem

    That can actually happen if someone decides that something is really just DE without asking.

    I am staring at a box of Cheerios which is 100% pareve but has a plain OU. I think it is the company’s choice.

    #1214532
    popa_bar_abba
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    That can actually happen if someone decides that something is really just DE without asking.

    And is more likely to happen to someone who followed the OU’s advice and asked every 3 months, and it changed within the 3 months. (And presumably has a spreadsheet with each item he asked about and the last time he asked, along with the past 50 years worth of OU emails and product alerts, which he consults each time he goes to the store like a good little O-U jew.)

    #1214533
    apushatayid
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    Some prefer to be a good little o-u jew and consult the spreadsheet than assume all is fine because the packaging has a sticker with some aleph beis on it (which more often than not is in some way reliant on the ou and its spreadsheets too).

    #1214534
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    OU KASHRUTH ALERT

    January 27, 2017

    Golden Flake Hot Thin & Crispy Potato Chips

    Brand

    Golden Flake

    Product

    Hot Thin & Crispy 5.0 oz. Potato Chips

    Company

    Golden Flake Snack Foods, Inc., Hanover PA

    Issue

    Dairy Product in Pareve Packaging

    The Orthodox Union certifies Golden Flake Hot Thin & Crispy Potato Chips as an OU product. A certified OU D product was mistakenly packed in the packaging of 5 oz. Hot Thin & Crispy Potato Chips, labeled with a plain OU. This product is being withdrawn from the marketplace.

    https://oukosher.org/kosher-alerts/

    #1214535
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Thanks DY 🙂

    #1214536
    Excellence
    Participant

    As a mashgiach, I can say just because a product has a recognised hechsher does not mean it is so kosher. I can only talk from local experience at my end. But it all depends on the supervisionary level – onsite mashgiach, or casual kashrut office inspection, and even personal practices. I want to say more but whats the point…

    #1214537
    koshervyosher
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    While no one is perfect from calling the major agencies and chassidim as well the major kosher agencies clearly are more on top of their game…. Just make 20-30 calls to the larger agencies you will be convinced

    #1214538
    marbehshalom
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    I THINK that the OU whoudl open a mehadrin line..

    in Ey you have rabbanut plain and rabbanut mehadrin

    there should me OU and OUm

    #1214539
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Just make 20-30 calls to the larger agencies you will be convinced

    I have contacted the large agencies numerous times. What am I supposed to be convinced of?

    #1214540
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    MS, when you have an OU plus a heimishe hechsher, that’s essentially what you have – the resources of the larger hechsher, plus the standards of the more stringent one.

    #1214541
    B1g B0y
    Participant

    I think that anyone who has a problem with OU is more than welcome to open their own vaad hakashrus

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