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December 2, 2010 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #731354bptParticipant
” Glenfiddich 50 Year Old “
Just say when and where! The 40 y/o bottle is close to $2000, so be sure to save me some, as I’m sure the line will be out the door.December 3, 2010 12:35 am at 12:35 am #731355
Sacrilege – I have tried it, however I wasn’t crazy about it. Just my personal opinion…
Recently, I went back to an old favorite – Wild Turkey 101. It’s a very solid bourbon. The only problem is that after you take a shot or two of it, anything less strong tastes very weak…December 3, 2010 2:45 am at 2:45 am #731356
Thanks! I always see it @ the story and never bought it, was wondering if it was any good.December 3, 2010 7:22 am at 7:22 am #731357December 3, 2010 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #731358jokerMember
for some reason americans love boubon, the rest of the world all prefer scotch its classier and tastier. A single malt scotch is better than any bourbon any day. so if ur entertaining americans bourbon will be the more popular drink, if not, scotch is definately the way to go!December 3, 2010 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #731359arcParticipant
classy is overrated.
As someone said a 21 year old scotch is (generally) much better than bourbon however I prefer bourbon most times.
To me Bourbon is steak and scotch is like fine chocolate 9 times out of 10 I’ll take the meat.December 3, 2010 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #731360
cherrybim – I agree – Knob Creek is pretty good. I also recently had the Old Grandad 114 & thought it was pretty good.
Sacrilege – you think I could get a job as a bourbon consultant?December 3, 2010 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #731361
Fa Sho.December 3, 2010 5:43 pm at 5:43 pm #731362HomeownerMember
Johnnie Walker Blue Label.December 3, 2010 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #731363squeakParticipant
Johnnie Walker Blue Label.
I didn’t realize that were we being asked to suggest alternatives to bourbons and single malts. In that case, I suggest Apple Juice.December 3, 2010 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #731364arcParticipant
not bourbonDecember 3, 2010 6:18 pm at 6:18 pm #731365agittayidParticipant
Wild turkey is great to serve at a kiddush.December 5, 2010 1:19 am at 1:19 am #731366metrodriverMember
Mod 80: Generally. From a Kashrus stand-point, there is an issue with some of the Scotch Whiskeys. Those that are blended. Some are blended with other whiskies that are aged in Wine Casks. Hence there is the Shaila of “Yayin Nesech”. Bourbons, on the other hand, are aged in their own barrels. As I like to say that I have Two “Rebbes”. Old Weller (107 Proof) and Wild Turkey (101 Proof).December 6, 2010 1:00 am at 1:00 am #731367
Sacrilege – I had a few shots of Pappy Van Winkle 20 year this Shabbos & I’m not sure if I can recommend anything else at the moment… it’s in a different ballpark… very geshmack!December 6, 2010 4:27 am at 4:27 am #731368
Old Weller is a great bourban but it’s on the problem list. The London Bais Din is matir all scotches.December 6, 2010 3:36 pm at 3:36 pm #731369
Is that the $120 bottle? I’m still looking for the $60 bottle of Pappys…
Just wondering, do I have to pay for these consultations 😉December 6, 2010 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm #731370
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, especially when it concerns bourban, but Pappy Van Winkle is also on the problem list of bourbans.December 6, 2010 4:53 pm at 4:53 pm #731371
cherrybim – yes, someone told me that as I was leaving the simcha. I wouldn’t have tried it had I known.
Sacrilege – I’m not sure how much it costs, but it was very good. And, BTW, payment is in bourbon only…December 26, 2010 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #731372
Sacrilege – here’s the Bourbon of the Week – Noah’s Mill. I had it a while ago, but then this week I had it again & was quite impressed. Decently priced with a nice taam.December 26, 2010 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #731373
I just Googled it. Ive neer heard of that one before… I’ll have to keep my eye out for it, thanks for the tip!December 27, 2010 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #731374
Sacrilege – I think it’s in the Rowan’s Creek family. Always happy to share a good bourbon….December 27, 2010 9:42 pm at 9:42 pm #731375
I do not believe that anyone can taste the difference between most whiskeys. Its all pretension and fakery. In a truly blind taste test, no one can distinguish 21-year old single-malt Glen Goniff scotch from 4-year old mass-produced Old Zeyde bourbon. All whiskey tastes like nail polish remover, and the only reason people drink it is to be polite, sociable or intoxicated … not that there’s anything wrong with that.
According to a passage in “The Autobiography of Malcolm X,” Mr. X opined that African Americans prefer scotch, so if you expect them at your simcha, be sure to have some available.December 27, 2010 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #731376YW Moderator-80Member
nfgo3 i must take issue with you in a very strong way
you are completely wrong
whiskey tastes nothing like nail polish remover!
it tastes like rubbing alcohol
except for some ive tried like lapphroaig (spell?) which taste like rubbing alcohol after having been filtered through a burned-out compost heap.
if you can give me the name of some that taste like nail polish remover ill give it a try and will be glad to retract if i find you are correct.December 27, 2010 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm #731377Pashuteh YidMember
I am surprised a young, single girl like Sac knows so much about liquor. I don’t know one from the other.
At any rate, I never drink Wild Turkey. I only drink Vilder Chaya.December 27, 2010 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm #731378
Being that I’ve never tried either nail polish remover or rubbing alchohol, I can’t give an opinion on them. But, a good bourbon tastes great even in a blind taste test…December 27, 2010 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #731379YW Moderator-80Member
on the other hand i dont believe it is “pretension and fakery”
there are well documented genetic differences among people in regard to the ability to perceive different tastes.
“Why do brussels sprouts taste bitterly repellent to one person and bland – or even delicious – to the next?
A study published in the February 22 issue of Current Biology confirms the influential role of genetics in determining the wide range of human sensitivity to taste, ultimately impacting how we each perceive the world in a slightly different way.
“Each human carries their own distinctive set of taste receptors which gives them a unique perception of how foods and medicines taste,” explains Monell Chemical Senses Center psychophysicist Paul Breslin, PhD, who shares first authorship and is a corresponding contributor for the study. “This paper shows that a single gene codes for multiple forms of a taste receptor, with each form having a differing sensitivity to taste compounds. Further, a person’s perceptual sensitivity to these bitter tasting compounds corresponds strikingly well with their genetically-determined receptor sensitivity.”December 27, 2010 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm #731380twistedParticipant
Bourbon could be made kosher, and even kosher lepesach with the following critera:
a)a corn only mash,
b)acceptance that corn is not chameshes haminim, (obvious) and
c)corn, being native to the Americas, is not kitniyos either (not so obvious, nor well accepted)
d)the malting agent and yeast are chometz free.
This is not really rocket science, and could be done in the home bathtub, kitchen and garage, given some know how, and a sense of what can be put into dual-use. And also a new charred oak barrel, likely the most elusive and expensive of the must haves.December 27, 2010 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm #731382
This is where you are wrong. Bourbon is a complex whiskey that engages your senses, you arent SUPPOSED to drink it blind. In order to properly enjoy it you need to see it, smell it, taste it.December 28, 2010 12:23 am at 12:23 am #731383Derech HaMelechMember
I’m with Mod-80 on this one. Since my youth when I freely mixed with beers and whiskeys and what-have-you, I’ve never been able to even smell these drinks without getting nauseous.
Yes, I’m that guy at the kiddush trying to hide in a corner while he makes Kiddush on some chocolate liqueur.
If you see me with my chocolate, please don’t come up to me. I prefer to remain anonymous.December 28, 2010 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #731384
Sacrilege – Most kiddushim have only “vybisher” shnapps in the women’s section & the good stuff in the men’s section. So, if you see Derech HaMelech in the men’s section – you can trade him a bottle of chocolate liquer for a bottle of bourbon….December 28, 2010 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #731385hockersMember
people you dont realize that ARAK is of the better alcoholic beverages out there.GIT R DONEDecember 28, 2010 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #731386bptParticipant
“I’m that guy at the kiddush ….. makes Kiddush on some chocolate liqueur.”
That’s only because you’re drinkin’ with the wrong chevrah. Sit at my table, and you’ll soon see why bourbon is THE drink of choice!December 29, 2010 7:36 pm at 7:36 pm #731387
Doesn’t anyone want to know how I know what nail polish remover tastes like?
Sacrilege: When I said “truly blind taste test,” I did not mean visually impaired. What I meant was: pour 3 or 4 different whiskeys in different glasses, and see whether you can identify which is which by sipping, smelling, looking and tasting each.
Mod-80 makes a good point about different people having different taste and olfactory receptors. But for most people, most whiskeys taste like nail polish remover.December 29, 2010 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #731388
“pour 3 or 4 different whiskeys in different glasses, and see whether you can identify which is which by sipping, smelling, looking and tasting each”
Youd be surprised how many people can do it.December 29, 2010 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #731389
Sacrilege: I’d be surprised if anyone can do it.December 29, 2010 11:41 pm at 11:41 pm #731390
Id take that bet.December 30, 2010 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #731391
Sacrilege: I didn’t say anything about betting, but … you name the place (in the 5 Boroughs) and I’ll bring the whiskeys.December 30, 2010 4:27 pm at 4:27 pm #731392
lkwdfellow: You comin?December 30, 2010 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #731393
Sacrilege – If you make it in lakewood – I’m there! With the roads full of ice & snow piles, I aint coming to the 5 Boroughs.
I think that before & after you shovel your snow – you need a good anti-freeze to warm yourself up – like Wild Turkey 101!!December 30, 2010 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #731394
There are many great bourbons out there other than woodfords, basil haydens, makers mark, knob creek, bakers and the other popular jewish bourbons
If you want something strong and gishmack, Old Grand Dad 114 makes a great boubon, buffalo trace is also a great bourbon,four roses and heaven hill are also great
Elmer T Lee, Elijah Craig,Evan Wiiliams, Noahs Mill are good tooDecember 30, 2010 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #731395
Old Grand Dad is swill… but then again you get what you pay for.December 31, 2010 12:53 am at 12:53 am #731396
Sacrilege – I will tell you – Old Grand Dad 114 does pack a good punch….December 31, 2010 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #731397
Old Grand Dad 114 is the way i go, it takes me right to the topJanuary 2, 2011 4:58 am at 4:58 am #731398yeshivabochur123Participant
I’d take any scotch over any bourbon any day.January 2, 2011 6:13 am at 6:13 am #731399
If your main objective is to get a quick buzz, knock yourself out.January 2, 2011 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #731400ZosHaTorahParticipant
Does anybody see anything wrong with spending a good $100 to $150 on top shelf single malts like Laphroig, Ardbeg, Coal Ila, Lagavulen, etc? I hate to spend so much for a bottle, but they bring such joy and kavod when drank in moderation at a Shabbos seuda.January 3, 2011 1:35 am at 1:35 am #731401
ZosHaTorah and Yeshivabochur123: If and when Sacrilege sets a place, time and date for a blind test, I hope you will be there to see how wrong you are about the tastes of different whiskeys.January 3, 2011 9:14 pm at 9:14 pm #731402
What else is the “objective” of drinking?January 3, 2011 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm #731403
Um, do you need a ride to AA? I’m free tonight.January 3, 2011 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm #731404
One can drink to get a buzz, which he/she enjoys, and not be an addict. In AA terms it’s called “Drinking like a gentelman”
3 types of drinkers
1. One who drinks, gets drunk, and doesnt drink for a while after that because they remember the feelings of nausea and dont want to go through it again. (not an addict)
2. One who drinks regularly, gets a buzz-or drunk- when he does, but can stop when he needs to, it doesnt interfere with his life, nor does he use it to escape reality. (not an addict)
3. One, who no matter what the consequences, cannot stop drinking-illness of body, obsession of mind. (finally, an addict)
oh! thanks for the offer but i can get there on my own.
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