September 25, 2019 10:45 am at 10:45 am #1789528exclParticipant
Do private Mikvas exist anymore for men on erev Rosh Hashana and Yom kipper in the Brooklyn area?September 25, 2019 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm #1789603iacisrmmaParticipant
Not that I know of but there are mikvahs that are not as crowded as others. Known crowded mikvahs Boston, Rabbi Sekula.September 25, 2019 1:48 pm at 1:48 pm #1789627cherrybimParticipant
Take a long shower instead.September 25, 2019 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #1789635exclParticipant
I stopped going, would like to go. This is a real questionSeptember 25, 2019 4:32 pm at 4:32 pm #1789679meir GParticipant
one more point you can ask the rav of a shteeble to open early for you if the privacy is a deal breaker most would happily oblige youSeptember 25, 2019 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #1789678meir GParticipant
many smaller mikvaos in brooklyn that are part of a shtibel open at a certain hr on erev rosh hashana maybe 12pm as an example so just get there a few min early.. secondly rav sharage feivel used to tell the bochurim in torah vodaas that in dinei geirus a bris alone is not enough you need ” tevila” . he said if mikva can make a goy to a yid it definitly has the koach to make a yid A BETTER YID. so go stay focused no one is really looking at you … =gut yom tovSeptember 25, 2019 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #1789701
Per the above comments, if you are willing to pay the extra cost, you could probably arrange for exclusive rights to use a small mikvah during off-hours.September 26, 2019 2:43 pm at 2:43 pm #1789989Toras MosheParticipant
You can use a lake or river.September 26, 2019 3:48 pm at 3:48 pm #1790015max dearParticipant
the main Boro park mikva on 46th. and 13av, should be open they always had private mikvas for Erev Shabbos and Yom tuv, there had been a lot of advocacy to build more private mikvas due to problems with tznius i know of a Bal tzedaka that made a condition to donate only if the shtibul will build a mikva with rooms for privacySeptember 26, 2019 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm #1790018
I think that even though the widespread custom is a non private mikvah, more should be done for those who were not raised this way, or do not feel comfortable with thisSeptember 26, 2019 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #1790053
Gosh, are you guys for real! By gentiles, they all play sports and go to locker room to take shower, same for swimming… why are you so sensitive!?September 26, 2019 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #1790060
“By gentiles “the females do also,so..?September 26, 2019 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm #1790071TGIShabbosParticipant
With the unfortunate year we have been having, I’d suggest NOT using a lake, river, or oceanSeptember 26, 2019 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm #1790061Long island YidParticipant
On the Lower East Side of Manhattan there is only one mikvah . It is primarily a Womens Mikvah so the rooms are of course private. It is however also available daily morning’s, erev shabbos & yomtov for men too. I know, cause I’ve used it. So that’s an option.
I don’t know the phone # off hand but you can certainly Google it. I know I’ve seen the info online. Much Hatzlacha!September 27, 2019 12:26 am at 12:26 am #1790121adocsParticipant
It is time for truth-
““By gentiles “the females do also,so..?”
And your point is..?September 27, 2019 6:37 am at 6:37 am #1790148michael2Participant
“cherrybim” – A shower does not render a person “Tahor”. IF there is no choice one should at least take a shower so to have 9 kavin, but it is not a mikve. Also there are 2 reasons for mikve erev YOM KIPPPUR, one is for tahara and one is for tshuva. You are not yotzai teshuva with a shower.September 27, 2019 6:38 am at 6:38 am #1790149TheMirParticipant
Many Mikvaos are Makpid not to allow men to use it, as it may put some women off using it thereafter – certainly defeating the purposeSeptember 27, 2019 6:39 am at 6:39 am #1790153
just like people think and feel different about things, this issue is no exception. We are not discussing a few freeks who are just crazy or a tiny tiny percent of people [ even that would be an interesting discussion ] rather large segments of our society just don’t feel good using public dressing rooms or showers or mikvahs. If you can’t relate, that’s fine, just know what I am saying is a fact.September 27, 2019 8:50 am at 8:50 am #1790159laughingParticipant
health hazardSeptember 27, 2019 11:26 am at 11:26 am #1790176
YF: if someone has a tattoo and doesn’t want anyone to see it, then I get it. Otherwise, I don’t. You are a male human being like anyone else around and you go to the mikvah. Big deal!September 27, 2019 4:45 pm at 4:45 pm #1790211peachoParticipant
@funnybone you’re not funny and you’re being rude. I’m glad that you feel so comfortable going to mikva with others around, but not everyone is. In a culture where we respect modesty it’s understandable that even men might feel uncomfortable. It’s no use comparing us to gentiles because we have a completely different lifestyle. It’s not about being ok with your body it’s about comfort and feeling of safety. #respecteachothersdifferences #stopcomparingSeptember 27, 2019 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #1790215flatbusherParticipant
There is a small mikvah on E. 10th off of I in basement of shul that is often pretty empty, depending when you go. I used to go to “private mikvah” on E.15 and J but got tired of the long waits and the price for the privilege of privacy. I don’t even know if it is still an option.September 27, 2019 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #1790224Reb EliezerParticipant
Look up SA O’CH 88 the Taz about 9 kavin for Erev Rosh Hashanah and Erev Yom Kippur.September 27, 2019 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #1790222JosephParticipant
flatbisher: are you referring to Rabbi Beck’s shul?September 29, 2019 3:38 am at 3:38 am #1790293
Peacho, I’m not trying to be funny or rude. There is nothing immodest about going to the mikvah. Nor is there something unsafe. You go to the mikvah and that’s it. Don’t focus so much on yourself and just do what you need to do. And don’t feel that it’s some weird Jewish thing, it’s perfectly acceptable all over the world.September 29, 2019 3:39 am at 3:39 am #1790294rationalParticipant
Call yourself The Exceleh Rebbe, and tell the mikve people that “The Exceleh Rebbe is coming and would like the mikve cleared out for him for 10 minutes”September 29, 2019 10:42 am at 10:42 am #1790314
I urge you to read my above post again. Just because a male may look like another, does not mean he is comfortable in mikvah surroundings. It may be a cultural or emotional thing, and here is not the place to deal with it. Just please be aware that a large segment does not view the issue like yourself.September 29, 2019 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #1790317
YF: unsure which culture you are referring to.
Also unsure if people need to discuss their emotional issues in a public CR.
Unsure how large a segment is suffering with this issue, have you done any research?September 29, 2019 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #1790321
There’s nothing wrong with wanting a more modest alternative.
In fact, I’ve heard some rebbeim say it’s not proper to use a urinal (where other people can see you); instead, one should use the stall.
Of course, tznius applies to men too.October 1, 2019 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm #1790334yikkumpurkanParticipant
like 10 or 11 am they are usually not so crowdedOctober 1, 2019 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm #1790329
Yytz: some rabbeim? Could you be more specific? Sounds ridiculous to me, every yeshiva and many shuls that I’ve been to have urinals.October 1, 2019 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm #1790433
Rav Moshe suggests not using urinals ( Yoreh Deah 3 siman 47,5) but I’m not sure if he was discussing when they didn’t have little walls between them. I think I’ve heard this from elsewhere too…not sure where.October 1, 2019 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1790437JosephParticipant
yytz: In Yerushalayim by the Beis Hamikdash thousands of Yidden shared the mikva at the same time. Are you accusing Chazal of permitting a lack of tznius?October 2, 2019 6:19 am at 6:19 am #1790483
The “culture” point is that today things are different to older times, where bathing naked was normal.
And what is wrong with raising emotional issues here?
I am basing my comment myself being a public figure, and being asked several times questions tht revolve around this issue.
Just for your info, I am a mikva goer. But I am heard enough to make my above statementOctober 2, 2019 9:38 am at 9:38 am #1790516🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
Funnybone- i don’t think he’s trying to upend the system or complain about the way it’s been set up, he’s just commenting that there are people who are not comfortable with it. I have heard that many times and judging by the increase in people willing to paying extra to use private mikvahs there must be a demand of some kind.
As far as modesty, i don’t think is always about that. Even if you are comfortable changing in a locker room, that isn’t the same as finding your rebbe among you or your menahel. And aren’t there halachos about seeing your father without clothing?
There is also a cleanliness issue, not all of us are used to sharing or recycling bath water like they did a century ago.
Regarding safety…I’ll leave that one alone.October 2, 2019 9:39 am at 9:39 am #1790507USnebechParticipant
The entire world was subjected to a “מקוה” (mabul) granting a new start. Stay focused on the huge benefits & shortly you will be wondering whatever bothered you.October 2, 2019 10:17 am at 10:17 am #1790538roshvrishonParticipant
The problem I am seeing here is that some people have been raised in a goyishe culture. We have a shulchan aruch and that is our culture. It does trouble me that fathers and sons go together to the mikva. Not allowed when the child is older than nine. However in today’s “culture” boys must be supervised because there are perverted people out there. So a father can stand there and stay dressed while the sons are immersing. They can then wait for him outside. Little boys can be with their fathers.October 2, 2019 10:23 am at 10:23 am #1790505
Joseph: Actually, the halacha is that one should urinate around other men rather than hold it in and harm one’s health. So it is not forbidden. But still, apparently Rav Moshe thought it was an issue and we should avoid it if possible by using the stall. The same logic should apply to mikvah. Some people are naturally more reticent to expose themselves to others; why not accommodate them so they can also use a mikvah? Bashfulness is after all a fundamental Jewish trait.October 2, 2019 11:58 am at 11:58 am #1790577cherrybimParticipant
michael2, are you saying there is no tshuva without Mikvah?
A number of Poskim rely on sources to justify that a shower counts as mikvah for certain men who want to use it .October 2, 2019 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm #1790604bp27Participant
I find it interesting that so many people are looking for private mikvahs (i.e. women’s mikvah) for the men, when at the same time on Erev Yom Kippur many mens’ mikvahs in places like Boro Park open up to the women (in the morning) to accommodate the crowd.October 2, 2019 2:27 pm at 2:27 pm #1790637
Rosh: ask your rabbi; poskim say that our mikvah does not have an issue of Bais hamerchatz and you may go with your father. R. Michel Steinmetz (heard on a CD) and R. Moshe Fogel, heard from a friend.October 2, 2019 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #1790639
Yytz: I looked up R. Moshes teshuva and you are correct. I will discuss it w my Rabbi, as my shul has urinals.October 3, 2019 1:25 am at 1:25 am #1790814
Yytz: R. Moshe is discussing place where you can be seen. Urinals which are private are okay.October 3, 2019 1:26 am at 1:26 am #1790819
FB: Another reason for installing “unisex” bathrooms with only stalls? On a serious note, it would be a big cost to convert existing facilities, even if there is arguably a tzinius issue for a small percentage of the tzibur. Its perhaps feasible for a small shtiebal but think about the additional space required for a shull with several hundred daveners.October 3, 2019 6:41 am at 6:41 am #1790846roshvrishonParticipant
Funnybone. I don’t see the difference between a merchatz and a mikvah. the problem is the personal exposure can lead to bad thoughts. The Rema says that in his time the custom was to wash and the privates were covered so its OK. otherwise not. But I’d be happy to hear a hetter, since so many people go with their kids.October 3, 2019 9:39 am at 9:39 am #1790878
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the onus was upon them to notice prior to the marriage in the merchatzOctober 3, 2019 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm #1790981adocsParticipant
It is time for truth-
“the onus was upon them to notice prior to the marriage in the merchatz”
Interesting place to make a wedding. Is it cheaper than standard wedding halls?October 3, 2019 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #1791119
Time for Truth: Not sure if you are serious but for most young women, even from more traditional families, if her Choson’s family invited her to a shvitzbath to “check her out”, she should invite them ALL to go toivel in Lake Erie in mid-January.
ADocs: Definitely a lower cost option than most Simcha halls in BP and Willy plus in some cases, would save the choson a separate trip to Mikvah. Yichud in the sauna followed by a cold dip outside by the fire hydrant. Where do you guys come up with these brilliant ideas??October 3, 2019 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm #1791192
showing your utter ignorance, again
it is an explicit gemara
Kesubos I believeOctober 4, 2019 7:50 am at 7:50 am #1791205Abba_SParticipant
If you want privacy, go 5 in the morning. There is a mikvah in the basement in a shtebul on E. 13 between M & N that is open and hardly anyone uses it at that time. Just bring your own soap and towel. Comes 1 O’clock Erev Rosh Hashanah & Yom Kippur the place is packed.
Another solution is make your own mikveh. Up until a hundred years ago communal bathing was common, now everyone has at least one bathroom per apartment. Converting a bathtub to a mikvah is possible but would require a larger tub.
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