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January 8, 2026 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #2496768January 8, 2026 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #2496804DaMosheParticipant
Small minded one: Zero Torah authority? How about R’ Meir Simcha? R’ Shlomo Kluger? Tzitz Eliezer?
January 9, 2026 10:21 am at 10:21 am #2496823anon1m0usParticipantA) Not ONE gadol holds that the 3 oaths are in effect. NOT one!!! Anyone with Daas understands this.
1) the 3 oaths is a nice Medrish. It is not mentioned anywhere in Navi.
2) it was ONLY during the first churban. There were NO Oaths at the second.Just use your Daas. Name ANYONE that disagrees and then refer back to my first point.
January 9, 2026 10:21 am at 10:21 am #2496846commonsaychelParticipantYou say
” yes, very idealistic people believe that we need to hold onto our land by living on it.I say
some very seriously warped peopleJanuary 9, 2026 10:21 am at 10:21 am #2496865HaKatanParticipantAAQ:
“ideally recognizing what HKB”H has given us (by saying the prayers for the State and IDF per halacha…”
LOL. As per halacha? G-d “gave us” the Holocaust, too. Jews fooled by the Zionist idol prayed for that “State” thinking it would be a good thing, so Hashem answered their prayers and gave it to them instead of bringing Mashiach. But, no, obviously it would be insane to pray for a “State” that is a total and massive rebellion against G-d and that has been hurting His children even more than in the past.We pray for all Jews to be safe, however G-d chooses to do that, not for that shmad “State”.
January 9, 2026 10:21 am at 10:21 am #2496866HaKatanParticipantanon1m0us:
By “not a gadol”, you didn’t specify to whom you were referring from my last post.
Perhaps you meant Rabbi Kook, though he was a tremendous scholar.January 9, 2026 10:21 am at 10:21 am #2496867HaKatanParticipant@DaMoshe:
Yes, zero Torah authority.
These Zionist lies have been debunked before.
Go ahead and quote your alleged sources.For example, by Rav Meir Simcha, you’re obviously referring to the letter allegedly from him published only in a “Religious Zionist” periodical, where he actually affirmed the oaths being in force. He simply stated that since the British issued their Balfour Declaration at that time – which they later rescinded, as it happens – and Jews were now permitted by the ruling gentile authorities to move to E”Y – entire non-politically, of course – that it would not be a violation of the oaths (i.e., rebelling against the nations) for Jews to move there. He said nothing about any of the oaths no longer being in force (which would make no sense for numerous reasons, as the Satmar Rav explains and on which there is no dispute).
January 9, 2026 10:22 am at 10:22 am #2496874qwerty613ParticipantTo the group
You’ll notice how Hakatan clammed up when I asked him to provide proof that Hitler said that he hated Jews because of the Zionists.
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