April 15, 2010 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #591557
can we start learning a daily halacha of shmiras haloshon daily?
In this zchus may we all get helped in what we need.
ThanksApril 15, 2010 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #683413YW Moderator-80Member
The leniency regarding L”H spoken to 3 or more
With regard to the leniency stated by the Sages of the Talmud about speaking L”H to a group of 3 or more (Erchin 15b), this refers to something which is not absolutely derogatory, but rather something which could be taken one way or the other. Only for such ambiguous statements, about which one can only know what was meant if he actually heard how the information was said, does the leniency of “bifnei shlosha” (Heb. for “in front of three”) apply. Since one who speaks publicly knows that his words will travel back to the subject, because “everyone has a friend” (i.e. to repeat things to; an Aramaic expression), the speaker will take care when he speaks so that what he says is not derogatory.
The leniency known as “b’apei tlata” means that it is permissible to speak what could be understood either positively or negatively, in an ambiguous fashion, provided that one’s intentions were non-negative, before three people.
Very different from an allowance to speak any kind of Lashon Hara once one is in a crowd!April 15, 2010 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #683414YW Moderator-42Moderator
There used to be a sticky thread like this. It might be better to keep this as a regular thread and hope that it will stay on the board by being used since people often ignore the stickysApril 15, 2010 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #683415smartcookieMember
True. I forgot all about those sticky threads. They’re just a CF piece of furniture and I’m sure many others don’t look at them either.April 16, 2010 5:00 pm at 5:00 pm #683416I can only tryMember
This is a very nice idea; thank you for starting the thread.
Whenever a fresh post appears on the dvar Torah thread, I read it. I’m sure others do, too.April 20, 2010 12:30 am at 12:30 am #683417smartcookieMember
What happened to our halacha yomi? I really think we can all benefit from it. Anyone volunteer to update daily? A big zchus!!April 20, 2010 2:54 pm at 2:54 pm #683418
Shmiras Haloshon Yomi
6 Iyar, 5770/ April 20, 2010
As we know, when a person does something which affects us negatively, our reaction will often depend on who that person is. For example:
Of course, there could be any number of reasons why the person left without telling you. He may have been mistakenly told that you had already left, or that you wanted to stay late. Perhaps an emergency forced him to leave in a hurry. Or, he may have simply forgotten.
The Chofetz Chaim discusses a case where you have been told that someone said something negative about you or has done something against you (i.e. you have heard rechilus) and you have confirmed that the report is true. Nevertheless, says the Chofetz Chaim, you are obligated to judge him favorably if there is any possible way to interpret his statement or action in a positive light. If you do not judge him favorably, then you are guilty of accepting rechilus.
The Chofetz Chaim concludes by discussing the teshuvah (repentance) which is required of someone who has accepted rechilus as truth:April 21, 2010 4:01 pm at 4:01 pm #683419
Shmiras Haloshon Yomi
7 Iyar, 5770 / April 21, 2010
We have been discussing the issue of accepting rechilus, a report that somebody said something negative about you or did something harmful to you. In this segment, the Chofetz Chaim deals with cases where circumstances seem to indicate that the report is true.
Sitting among a crowd at a bar mitzvah, David says, in a voice loud enough for everyone to hear, that Reuven did something which was damaging to Shimon. One might assume that since this announcement was made in public, it is probably true. Can Shimon believe David? No. Shimon has to discern if there is anything constructive to be gained from absorbing this information. If it will help him to prevent further harm, he is allowed to suspect that the information is true and he can investigate further. If the information has no relevance for the future, he should assume that it is not true.
In previous segments, the Chofetz Chaim has offered us several possible reasons for rejecting such a report. Here, he reminds us of the most compelling one.
The Chofetz Chaim then challenges us:
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