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December 7, 2010 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #593353
who’s seen the video? What do you think?December 7, 2010 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #834798
I think it is cute, upbeat and fun. There is nothing wrong with it. And for those who say it is a goyish tune. Think about MBD who’s song Yiddin everyone still sings and hums. That was a German march! So everyone from Country Yossi to MBD, has taken Goyish tunes and turned them into Yiddish hits!
It is a group of Yeshiva boys singing a Chanuka song. They are all dressed like OREOS, with their white shirts and black pants, there are no girls in the video, there is nothing non-kosher in the video, and it is even accapela so there is no musical instruments involved. Anyone can listen to it at any time. It is an informative song about Chanuka and it is fun to watch and fun to listen to. I don’t see any downside to it.
It is probably a good beat to walk to and exercise to. If you like this kind of music, go for it.December 7, 2010 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #834799The Rabbi RocksMember
I thought it was hystericalDecember 7, 2010 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #834800ramateshkolianMember
my problem with it is that it’s been on CNN and other news outlets. THIS is what secular Jews see of us frum jews and the goyim too. It’s just a representation of our shallow, superficial generation. But I guess you have to do what works for the times!December 7, 2010 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #834802Jack DanielsMember
i loved it,my family has been playing it non-stop!!!December 7, 2010 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #834803Brooklyn YentaParticipant
ramateshkolian: most people aren’t stupid enough to think that this video defines jews. if anything, it shows that we have a sense of humor, and talent, to boot. guys, lighten up! the video is adorable!December 7, 2010 4:49 pm at 4:49 pm #834804December 7, 2010 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm #834805SacrilegeMember
“THIS is what secular Jews see of us frum jews and the goyim too”
Actually, I think non-Jews think of Jews as swindlers and cheaters, and thats on a good day.December 7, 2010 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #834806December 7, 2010 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #834807
Ramat – very good and pertinent points. Chazak v’amatz.December 7, 2010 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #834809Pashuteh YidMember
While I go more for Carlebach style music, I did get quite a chuckle out of this. I believe it is a kiddush hashem for the following reason. These days religion is either considered to be nerdy or else fanatical, like the Islamic terrorists. This video shows kids it can be normal and cool. Imagine a child out in the midwest who knows little about Judaism and is embarrassed to do anything Jewish for fear his friends may find out. A video like this will blow his mind. There is nothing to be embarrassed about, and he can even be proud of his heritage. These guys are all normal, with-it, funny guys, who go to college like everyone else, and yet are clean-cut and sincere, and love their religion. It makes a very big roshem on a Jewish public school kid anywhere in the world. I would not be surprised if quite a few kids become frum because of this, down the road. Yiddishkeit can be cool.December 7, 2010 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #834810
Pashuteh Yid, well said….December 7, 2010 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #834811✡onegoal™Participant
Someone showed it to me and I have been watching it ever since. It is funny and well done. As for the goyish tune part whats so bad about the tune it’s the words that are the problem probably in this case because the tune is fine.December 7, 2010 6:19 pm at 6:19 pm #834812
Maccabeats Chanukah song will hopefully compensate for Judge Judy’s clip “frum couple verses Dry Cleaners”, in which a terrible chillul Hashem was made. Dry Cleaner put the wig in the dry cleaning machine by mistake.December 7, 2010 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm #834813
Minor nitpick… it was The People’s Court, not Judge Judy.
(yeah, I know… nit, nit, nit… 🙂 )
The WolfDecember 7, 2010 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #834814YW Moderator-80Member
if it makes you feel better i was going to pick the same nit but inertia won out.December 7, 2010 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #834815
Oh, thank you for correcting…it was The People’s Court. Does Georgie only sell wigs that she makes herself?December 7, 2010 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #834816
but inertia won out.
Inertia? Or ennui? 🙂
The WolfDecember 7, 2010 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #834817
Does Georgie only sell wigs that she makes herself?
I really don’t know. In any event, this line of questioning is really better-suited for the other thread.
The WolfDecember 7, 2010 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #834818
Thanks Wolf, I posted it there.December 7, 2010 8:01 pm at 8:01 pm #834819chofetzchaimMember
Is this what the Navi meant by “Umal’ah ha’aretz dai’ah es Hashem…”December 7, 2010 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #834820kapustaParticipant
I agree with aries. Just because we know they took the tune from somewhere shouldn’t make it any worse than a song people assume is original but isn’t really.
Plus, with over two million hits on youtube, how many non-frum Jews decided to light Menorah, or speak to a Rabbi, or even just thought a little about being Jewish.December 7, 2010 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #834821so rightMember
I can see some benefit for non-frum or not so frum people watching this. But it is a detriment to ehriliche yidden to watch.December 7, 2010 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #834822dunnoMember
In what way is it a detriment?December 7, 2010 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #834823Jack DanielsMember
besides most jewish music is based on non-jewish music so what is the difference? at least they admit were they took it from and are not passing it off as their ownDecember 8, 2010 1:03 am at 1:03 am #834825musictomyearsMember
Think about it this way: (use your imagination)
do you think Hashem is looking down listening and smiling at the song??do you think He’s shepping nachas from watching his children sing the song?
this will give you an answer. there is no right or wrong one, its all a matter of opinion.
this is what i think before buying any Cd i hear a preview of.
it helps differentiate between the very fine line of jewish music and not so jewish musicDecember 8, 2010 2:32 am at 2:32 am #834826sm29Participant
I’m surprised that it became so popular so quickly. I’m glad that it has baruch Hashem, made a good impact on people, and help them to be happy to be JewishDecember 8, 2010 3:35 am at 3:35 am #834827strivefortruthMember
Hashem most certainly is smiling down on this song. a song whose lyrics include ‘a great return to torah learning” has encaptured the hearts of thousands(millions?) of yidden around the world, yidden who need chizuk the most. what a tremendous kiddush hashem and pirsumei nissah of chanukah!December 8, 2010 4:36 am at 4:36 am #834828mw13Participant
musictomyears: Do you think Hashem is looking down, listening to this song, and frowning? What exactly is wrong with it?December 8, 2010 11:26 am at 11:26 am #834829
I think it’s alot worse when I hear psukim from the Torah or Davening put to a beaty secular tune. If the Maccabeats would have put psukim or davening to this non Jewish beaty song then I alarm bells would have gone off in my ears. But they didn’t. Wish they would put out more songs (and their shidduch resumes).December 8, 2010 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm #834830WiseWomanMember
I happen to know one of the guys from the group as we did know each other is high school and I can tell you he had a great voice then and B”H still has one now. I started playing it for the Rosh Yeshiva in the school I work in and he says “I want to see the rest later but I gotta start my meeting.” A rosh yeshiva!!! He thought it was fun and cute. They got over 2 million hits and that is amazing! What a Kiddush Hashem they are making!December 8, 2010 1:38 pm at 1:38 pm #834831
WW – so these characters went to a coed HS?December 8, 2010 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #834832TheGoqParticipant
she said she knew one of them from hs not all, and so what if they did go to a coed hs? are you going to denigrate them for their upbringing or for not being as frum as you? (not that you have any idea how frum they are) and you call them characters they are talented enthusiastic young men whats wrong with that?December 8, 2010 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #834833dunnoMember
Helpful: Like TheGoq said, they didn’t necessarily go to a coed HS and even if they did, chill.December 8, 2010 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #834835tzippiMember
Since this thread hasn’t been fully hijacked yet, MikeHall, there are many women who have real jobs who know, deep down, that they get equal fulfillment, if not greater, during the time they spend at home, baking challos. And there are others who don’t. Not knocking either. But the former may be better grounded.December 8, 2010 3:43 pm at 3:43 pm #834836
Didn’t you all know that anything Helpful does, is the right way 😉December 8, 2010 3:52 pm at 3:52 pm #834837
Mike, I refrain from comment.December 8, 2010 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm #834838
I just want to mention something my kids told me. My grandchildren have been exposed to this goyish song on the school bus by their driver. Yup! They all knew it with the goyish words!!! Now they all B”H have the Jewish version they can sing on the bus!!December 8, 2010 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #834839
I bake challos.December 8, 2010 4:35 pm at 4:35 pm #834840
I bake challos.
So do I. You don’t want to be keeping company with me now, do you? 🙂
The WolfDecember 8, 2010 11:17 pm at 11:17 pm #834841seminaryhelpMember
this video was AWESOME. my entire school is obsessed with it!!!!! they did a great job!December 9, 2010 12:44 am at 12:44 am #834842mw13Participant
Whoa. Helpful showed no indication that he was about to “denigrate them for their upbringing or for not being as frum as you” or that he had “any idea how frum they are”. For a post blasting assumptions, you seem to have made a fair amount of them yourself.December 9, 2010 12:55 am at 12:55 am #834843candy613Member
seminaryhelp, i tot agree couldnt be more true!!!December 9, 2010 1:23 am at 1:23 am #834844EzratHashemMember
I usually don’t flip my latkes in the air. I try to keep them low in the pan so the oil doesn’t splatter.December 9, 2010 2:05 am at 2:05 am #834845baron fritzParticipant
the song is awesoooommmmeee and the video is funny tooDecember 9, 2010 2:18 am at 2:18 am #834846bygirl93Member
omg!!!! my entire school is singing it none stop!!! i couldn’t get the song out of my head!!!! it was an amazing kiddush Hashem and persumei niessaDecember 9, 2010 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #834847squeakParticipant
I’m not very into music. I found out about this yesterday, at my Chanuka party (see the jokes thread), when one of the young ‘uns started singing it.
The best comment on the song came from a 3 year old who exclaimed, “That’s a goyishe song!”.
“Why is it goyish?” (the 3 year old has certainly not ever heard the original)
He replied, “Because we don’t flip latkes in the air, it’s food!”December 9, 2010 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm #834848smile66Member
I do agree that this video can be really good for some kid in a public school out in the midwest and many others who need to hear that judaism is cool and then they might begin to discover it for themselves.
That being said, forget for a second whether or not Hashem is smiling at the song or not. This is chanuka, right? What are we celebrating on chanuka, besides the face level of the oil burning for 8 days? The real intense celebration of chanuka is of the victory of pure kedusha over anything that was touched by the goyim. The whole reason the maccabees even found that one jug of pure oil is because they searched and searched and searched; they could not entertain the thought that they would light the menorah for Hashem with something that was touched (just touched!) by the goyim. Now I understand that this video may end up helping some irreligious people, but coming to the bottom line – really what would the maccabees have thought of the song? How about the hellenists?
Remember what chanukah is actually about before you stamp your seal of approval.December 9, 2010 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #834849Trying my bestMember
I agree with you 100%.December 9, 2010 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #834850blueberrymuffinParticipant
I’ve been reading through the posts and I see many posters seem to agree that the song is good since it may help bring public-school kids back to yiddishkeit. That may very well be true, but think about it – are we public-school kids?
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