Tiferes Shlomo and the modern State of Israel

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    SQUARE_ROOT
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    Tiferes Shlomo writes,

    A person should contemplate how,
    due to our many sins, the Holy Land is under Arab control.
    This breaks a Yid’s heart, and he should
    shout out to HaKadosh Baruch Hu
    .”

    SOURCE: Tiferes Shlomo מסעי ד”ה א”י כן מטה השני

    SOURCE: Torah Wellsprings: Collected Thoughts from
    Rabbi Elimelech Biderman Shlita: Devarim T”B [Tisha BeAv], page 41

    NOTE: Tiferes Shlomo was written by Rabbi Shlomo HaKohen Rabinowitz
    of Radomsk, who lived from year 1801 CE to 1866 CE.

    During his lifetime, Eretz Yisrael was ruled by the Turkish Ottoman Empire,
    not by Arabs, as is incorrectly stated in this quote.

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    PERSONAL COMMENT:

    Fanatical anti-Zionists claim that the State of Israel
    should be dismantled, which would certainly result
    in Arabs controlling ALL of Eretz Yisrael [G*D forbid].

    However, Tiferes Shlomo writes that the Holy Land
    being under Arab control “breaks a Yid’s heart”.

    If the Tiferes Shlomo were with us today, he would
    NOT APPROVE of any plan that
    results in the Holy Land being under Arab control
    — for example: dismantling the State of Israel.

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    #2444449
    Haimy
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    Eretz Yisroel being controlled by Atheists would break his heart twice as much!

    #2444454
    HaKatan
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    SQUARE_ROOT:
    Zionism has caused you to miss the entire point of his message.
    What “breaks a Yid’s heart”, according to the Tiferes Shlomo and all believing Jews, is that we are still in galus, that Hashem has not sent Mashiach to bring us all to E”Y with His king in control. The Turks (or Zionists, for that matter) being in control there is just a symptom of that problem, that Mashiach hasn’t come yet.

    Regarding you nonsensical accusations in your personal comment, I do not recall ever reading on these forums that anyone suggested that the Arabs should take over there. If you check my other posts, however, for my own humble opinion, you’ll see that I wrote that it would likely be Eisav in control, not Yishmael. But, regardless, the idol of Zionism and its “National” bodies can and will end when Hashem sees fit to finally end that nightmare of Zionism.

    #2444456
    ujm
    Participant

    Perfect.

    He writes “he should
    shout out to HaKadosh Baruch Hu”.

    He does NOT write that he should wage a war against the Arabs to take the land.

    He writes to daven. Not to fight. He writes ask Hashem to intervene. He does not write that man should take the matter into his own physical hands.

    Thank you for sharing this important point.

    #2444887
    somejewiknow
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    @hakatan
    I would suggest the non-jewish population that leaves there could and perhaps should rule the area.
    before the zionists, the arabs were well regarded by jews as good, respectable caretakers of the land in our gulis.

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