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  • #607648
    i said so
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    I need some info. About touro!! Can a/o help me?!!

    #919547
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    What information do you need?

    Or, more specifically, what information do you need from us that you can’t get from spending a few minutes on their website?

    The Wolf

    #919548
    OneOfMany
    Participant

    Touro stinks YU stinks Touro rocks YU rocks!

    (Just thought I’d get that out of the way.)

    #919549

    In an example of crushing irony, Touro (pronounced to-row) doesn’t have a rowing team.

    #919550
    leitzim123
    Member

    I may be able to help you but can you be a little more specific?

    #919551
    gotbeer
    Member

    Which location ? Flatbush, Boro Park, Machon Leparnasah, Queens, ETC…. Undergrad or Graduate school ? Touro has hundreds of locations.

    #919552
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    It has a website

    #919553
    i said so
    Member

    How much does each credit cost?! An wht r the advantages and disadvantages of going to touro?!!

    #919554

    For women, or for men?

    With so many locations, I am sure that each location is smaller than the size of yu/ stern…

    #919555
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Dont waste your money

    #919556
    NJ_Mom
    Member

    My son is in one of the Touro for Men’s divisions. VERY disappointed….from the curriculum to the financial dept. Waste of time and money. He’s going to transfer out at the end of this semester iy”h.

    #919557
    Joe27
    Member

    Dear NJ_Mom,

    I am very sorry that you are having a bad experience with Touro College. Can you be more specific on what problems or difficulties you are having? I know many students who attend the women and men divisions and are very satisfied with the education and administration. I also personally know many Touro professors who try very hard to work with each student to make sure they understand the course material. I am not saying Touro is top notch school but maybe your son had a hard time with a particular teacher or a staff member. I don’t think its fair to judge a whole school this way.

    #919558
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    I went to Touro, and loved it. It’s a matter of finding the right professors and making sure that your department is a good one (or at least that you are happy with the quality of teaching.)

    #919559
    shtarkzich
    Member

    Be sure the course you are thinking of taking is properly accredited and that any promises or claims regarding what this course will do for you are in WRITING!

    #919560
    akuperma
    Participant

    Touro is a broad range of schools. Some are better than others. It is typically more friendly to frum Yidden than any American university (excluding parts of Yeshiva University, and not considering online-only schools). It is more expensive than public universities (CUNY, Maryland, Rutgers, etc.), but usually cheaper than the high quality private schools (such as Columbia, John Hopkins, etc.). Touro is NOT famous for high academic standards (which is good if your transcript is not known for high academic standards, but that means the degree is less prestigious than one from a school with a better reputation for academics).

    #919561

    It’s not what it used to be. Just take a walk over one evening during sessions and visit the office, speak to the people and students and you’ll see for yourself.

    #919562
    greatest
    Member

    If you look at U.S. News & World Report salary rankings, you will notice Touro graduates have one of the highest average salaries. Higher, in fact, than graduates of many prestigious universities, including some of the Ivy Leagues.

    #919563
    anon1m0us
    Participant

    Greatest: You must receive the Lakewood Edition of the US News & World Report. Touro is ranked 104 on the list with a tuition approx. $15K. Compared to Brooklyn College where Chaim Berlin and other yeshiva students go, it is ranked at #55 with only $6K tuition. In addition, Touro accepts 68.9% of students applying (Probably because money talks) compared to Brooklyn College that accepts only 28.2%.

    My regular US News & World Report, not the Lakewood Edition, lists all the Ivy League schools surpassing Touro in every area.

    Here is how the IVY League Schools Rank:

    Brown University=#15

    Columbia University=#4

    Cornell=#15

    Dartmouth College=#10

    Harvard University=#1

    Princeton University=#1

    University of Pennsylvania=#8

    Yale University= #3

    Here is a comparison between Brooklyn & Touro, since they both are in the same geographical area.

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/brooklyn-college-2687

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/touro-college-10142

    I do not know how you determined salaries since I could not find that on the reports, but I did find the Busienssweek which refutes that idea. It states that graduates from Ivy League earn the biggest salaries. Here is a link to Payscale which Business week bases their finding.

    http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2013/ivy-league-schools

    But as my esteemed yeshiva classmates used to say when they discovered I was going to go to Touro College (College itself is a blasphemous word), Touro is a pig that has the semonim of being kosher but it is pure treif; so I decided to go pure treif and transferred to Brooklyn 🙂

    #919564
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    I am sure most who condem college as “treif” have never even taken a college course

    #919565
    Health
    Participant

    anon1m0us – I also went to Touro and don’t hate it like you do.

    Instead of insinuating that poster (“greatest”) is a liar because of your bias – all you had to do was ask him for his source!

    E/o knows the rankings that you quoted and quite frankly those rankings are Not as important as salary rankings. But you’re scared that you might not be right in regards to Touro -so you wrote this long-winded post. And your rank out of Lakewood is duly noted.

    #919566
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I am sure most who condem college as “treif” have never even taken a college course

    Neither have I eaten pig. So what.

    #919567
    2scents
    Participant

    I think that it really depends on what you want to achieve, if it is just to become a PA, then Touro might be a good choice.

    However if you need a prestigious degree, then it might not be the best option.

    #919568
    Health
    Participant

    anon1m0us – I also went to Payscale and this is what I found:

    “Rank School Name Region School Type

    191 – tie Touro College (New York) Northeast Private Schools

    Starting Salary Mid-Career Salary

    $50,200 $84,000

    % with High Job Meaning

    58%”

    Touro is ranked – just from it’s four year college, not from any of it’s Grad schools, 191 out of over a thousand colleges listed!

    And the % with High Job Meaning is higher than even Princeton Univ.

    #919569
    greatest
    Member

    anon1m0us: I’m very sorry that you failed reading comprehension in grade school and that Brooklyn College was unable to bring you up to par. Nevertheless, the only point I addressed was graduate salary levels. Not student tuition costs. Not education quality. And not any of the myriad of subjects you threw in for good measure. Only graduates salary levels.

    Now I am sorry that since (as you said) “you could not find that” you shlepped in some other magazine making a general statement that Ivy League grads make the biggest salaries. That ia true though does not refute the point I made. And that is that Touro College graduates, on average, earn higher salaries than graduates of some (though not most) of the most prestigious colleges, including earning on average higher salaries than the average salary of graduates of some of the Ivy Leagues. This information is directly from the salary rankings (and they do rank average salaries earned by graduates of the various colleges — even though you “could not find that” as it is not freely available on the web) by U.S. News & World Report.

    #919570
    anon1m0us
    Participant

    In addition, I never stated I hated Touro. The OP asked information on Touro which I responded to 1) higher tuition, 2) Ranked 104 compared to other in state colleges, and 3) its high school. As I stated, if you liked High School, you enjoyed Touro. The long winded post was to provide the OP a detailed listing of how the colleges rank and I took your advice and included the Mid Career Salary below; which still shows that Ivy League Schools outrank Touro in Salary. This is all for Undergrad!

    Greatest: Can you please enlighten this forum which Ivy League school graduate earns less than a Touro Graduate?

    Here are the Mid Career Salaries from Payscale (http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2013/full-list-of-schools)

    Brown University=$109K

    Columbia University=$105k

    Cornell=#102K

    Dartmouth College=$111K

    Harvard University=$111

    Princeton University=$137

    University of Pennsylvania=$102K

    Yale University=$105K

    The only interesting thing to note your condescending tone when people disagree with you, a quality you must have picked up in your education. True, maybe my education is not up to par as yours, however, I did learn to provide sources from all my statements which I have done and not just quoted garbage and have people assume it is fact. If you feel my statements are incorrect, please be a mentch and show me your source so I do not have to rely on Google to provide me with it. Is it that difficult to copy and paste a link? If you need assistance in that area, please let me know so I can show you how to properly right click on your mouse.

    #919571
    akuperma
    Participant

    If you have the grades and scores to go to NYU or Columbia, they are better schools than Touro. If you can get into a public university (e.g.CUNY or SUNY for a New Yorkers), the in-state tuition is much cheaper. Some people lack the grades to get into a public university, and they’ll find Touro is an option. Some people find a co-ed non-Jewish environment to be too intimidating if not hostile, and Touro is an answer.

    #919572
    anon1m0us
    Participant

    akuperma: Nicely summed up.

    #919573
    greatest
    Member

    anon1m0us: I apologize that I cannot raise your reading comprehension via this discussion board. But for the third time, the source is U.S. News & World Report. Which part of that do you fail to comprehend? And as I previously stated, the report is not freely available on the web, thus there are no links. But please do feel free to purchase the report for approximately $35. You will then see what I refer to. This site honors copyright laws.

    #919574
    plonis3141
    Member

    anon1m0us – A little silly to be comparing Touro with Ivy leagues, even if Did anyone think Touro was an Ivy league school?

    Also, I imagine that someone looking into Touro is doing so because it is Jewish and that men and women are separate. Why is everyone here comparing it to secular colleges? Someone going to Touro is making that choice, even though it may not be as academically or financially “worthwhile”, because they feel that they gain something that is not available elsewhere – the environment.

    #919575

    anon1m0us-

    Ignore the troll’s insults. Better yet, ignore him completely.

    BTW, here’s the link to his profile for this SN:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/greater

    #919576
    OneOfMany
    Participant

    Icot: Nice! I couldn’t figure out that one’s user name…

    #919577
    anon1m0us
    Participant

    plonis3141: I agree it is silly to compare since there is no comparison. All I am doing is enlightening some people whose misconception that Touro’s salary potential is greater than Ivy League. As a frum person, I felt compelled to stand for truth and thus the conversation. You are correct, that people pick Touro because of the environment, as Akuperma nicely put it.

    Greatest: I’m also sorry that I cannot stoop do your level of intelligence to debate without insulting; my sincere apologies. However, next time please do not state anything that cannot be independently verified. I am assuming you do know what copyright laws actually entail? Please review the Fair Use Rule before commenting further how you are being a good citizen.

    #919578
    greatest
    Member

    anon1m0us: For the fourth time, you can “independently verify” everything I advised you by simply reading the famous U.S. News & World Report 2012 College Rankings.

    #919579

    Joseph-

    You are not stupid – in fact you’re probably quite intelligent.

    You know what you’re doing is wrong.

    You know better.

    You can do better.

    You promised to do better: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/i-admit-i-made-a-mistake#post-202899

    Does keeping your word mean nothing to you?

    Shame on you.

    #919580
    anon1m0us
    Participant

    Greatest: Obviously, you can not comprehend what I am asking you for the fifth time so forget it. Enjoy your Touro Education, for everyone else, look else where. This is exactly what I referred to when I said Touro is another 4 years of High School where people insult and speak to one another in condescending tone of voice. Thanks for proving my point.

    #919581
    i said so
    Member

    Ok I would like to go the woman’s college, and I would like to go for accounting, CPA or business wht do u guys think?!

    #919582
    hershi
    Member

    A degree in “business”, imo, is almost useless (from any college). It has no meaning. You need something else that you can get a job with coming out of college with a bachelors. (Unless you intend to get a masters or doctorate.)

    #919583
    nishtdayngesheft
    Participant

    anon1m0us

    “I said Touro is another 4 years of High School where people insult and speak to one another in condescending tone of voice”.

    Did you go to Touro? Or is this a typical case of “oif der ganev brent di huttel”?

    Oh, and anecdotally, where I work there are Touro graduates as well as Ivy League graduates including several with PhD’s. And a number of the Touro Graduates have higher positions and make more.

    Not a heimishe place.

    #919584
    anon1m0us
    Participant

    nishtdayngesheft: As I stated, I have attended Touro college on Ave J so your analogy does not fit.

    Guess what? I did not attend an Ivy League college and I make above the Mid Career Salaries listed for Ivy League. However, the statement remains accurate that in general, Ivy League graduates will make more than Touro. I don’t see why people feel otherwise or get upset with that statement.

    #919585
    i said so
    Member

    For a/t I go in the business field I will need a BA so I might as well start of in touro, thn at least I’m earning a BA and if I want to get a further education I can

    #919586
    Kaylie
    Member

    Hey!

    I actually just got back from class now. I take 18 credits this semester. Price per credit is $620. They actually just raised it.

    The thing about Touro is that they have only one good advisor, thereby ensuring that you stay there as long as possible. This way they make the most money off you. I have personal experience with this!

    Secondly, they claim to have censored all the teachers materials. I have personally sat through a class all about Freud and in depth too, numerous times.

    My experience with Touro, being on the CPA track is so far quite lousy. It is quite unfortunate!

    #919587
    OneOfMany
    Participant

    He drops one sock puppet and picks up another…

    Icot, maybe try your user name cracking superpowers on hershi too?

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/hershe

    #919588

    Trolling tricks:

    A second flavor is to actually create both SNs, then switch the displayed SN of one to the other, and only use the changed SN. This way, when someone clicks the SN next to the post, they see the profile of a SN that seems not to have any posts. For an example of this, please see:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/vuchindik

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/vochindik

    #919589
    2scents
    Participant

    I think the “why” is because to much time on his hands.

    #919590
    Yamoos7123
    Member

    To popa

    Treif and college are not comparable primarily because treif is assur from the torah while college has many heteirim given by the rabbanim of our times

    #919591
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    LOL Yamoos, I’d be very surprised if PBA never went to college.

    #919592
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I never went to college, except my yeshiva which gave me a degree in rabbinic and talmudic whatever.

    #919593
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    I’m very surprised. And very impressed.

    #919594
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    Actually, PBA, does this count as a halachic statement on your part? I know you take those seriously.

    #919595
    Health
    Participant

    anon1m0us -“Health:

    In addition, I never stated I hated Touro. The OP asked information on Touro which I responded to 1) higher tuition, 2) Ranked 104 compared to other in state colleges, and 3) its high school. As I stated, if you liked High School, you enjoyed Touro.”

    You might not have stated you hate it outright, but it was quite obvious from your post. So if you don’t hate it how could you make a blanket statement that it’s high school? Which Touro is high school -the one on 23rd St. in Manhattan or the one in Flatbush? Or perhaps all of them are even though they have schools all over the world? Even if your statement was true, it can’t even be LH, only Motzay Shem Ra because you can’t possibly know about every single Touro college. But this didn’t stop you from speaking about all of them.

    I think you should have been more concerned where you went to Yeshiva than which college you went to. You obviously didn’t have much of an education when it comes to the laws of LH!

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