July 17, 2013 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #610098not so yishivishMember
In honor of Chatzos. Ill go for yesh tikvah while I shaveJuly 17, 2013 5:25 pm at 5:25 pm #1074314ObstacleIllusionParticipant
Not sure, but I have the first hour after chatzos blocked off for putting myself back together.July 17, 2013 5:41 pm at 5:41 pm #1074315
I personally took a 40 m. Hot shower while my favorite fast songs were on shuffle…..music rocks!!!!July 17, 2013 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #1074316Oh Shreck!Participant
I played shifchi k’mayim (yesterday’s theme) on my violin. Those moving words… hot off the press.
It will take some time until I get fully back into playing though. (??? ????..)July 17, 2013 6:00 pm at 6:00 pm #1074317bekitzurParticipant
“My Belief” by London Girls ChoirJuly 17, 2013 6:53 pm at 6:53 pm #1074318
I’m at work… oh well….:( that made mine be Jewish Music Stream’s Yonatan Shlagbaum – Ki EinJuly 17, 2013 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #1074319
I love that song! Its a shame its not youtube….i want to download it!July 17, 2013 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #1074320Sam2Participant
I’ll let you know when I have an opportunity where it’s Muttar to listen to music. 🙂July 17, 2013 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #1074321BoruchSchwartzParticipant
Perhaps lecha dodiJuly 17, 2013 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #1074322
Whatever they’re playing at Starbucks!July 17, 2013 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #1074323
JF02 that got me laughing, we have this ongoing argument that lasts from sefira until after the 9 days year after year
Argument is: if the secular music is considered music at all. So duno if that counts…July 17, 2013 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #1074324
Really? Wow…July 17, 2013 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #1074325
Who is we??? The other two???? Lol
Anyway, i dont think it is, music is supposed to inspire, if it dosent its not really music….so unless its inspiring you to be secular or something or another song about love……well thats not really inspiring at all..so…..that IS a good argumentJuly 17, 2013 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #1074326
Ye the other two and myself 😉
So if you don’t consider secular music “Music” cuz it doesn’t inspire and make your “soul happy” than technically you’re allowed to listen to secular music throughout sefira and the 9 daysJuly 17, 2013 8:37 pm at 8:37 pm #1074327Torah613TorahParticipant
Yesh Tikva!!July 17, 2013 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm #1074328
Different music inspires different people. And secular music can definitely be inspiring. First of all, some is instrumental, and second of all, they’re not all about love. Many of them touch on the same themes that Jewish music does: hardship and adversity, courage, loss and death, friendship.
Also, love songs can be inspiring too. I would argue that the Rascal Flatts song “Bless the Broken Road” can provide chizuk to older singles. Google for lyrics if you don’t know it.July 17, 2013 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #1074329
I let Pandora choose for me. I was neither thrilled nor disappointed, but I was surprised so I stand by my decision (it was
Now, before you deride me for listening to secular music (or tell me it doesn’t count so I could have listened for the past 3 weeks) you should know that I work, wear colored shirts, and have been known to say Good Shabbos to people of the opposite gender, whether I knew them or not.
Just thought I would give the denizens of the CR the ammunition, I think many could use the headstart.
(no that wasn’t the first song that came up, vihamayvin yavin)July 17, 2013 9:05 pm at 9:05 pm #1074330July 17, 2013 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm #1074331UtahMember
HatikvaJuly 17, 2013 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #1074332The FrumguyParticipant
“Tell Me Why” by The Beatles.July 17, 2013 10:34 pm at 10:34 pm #1074333Luna LovegoodParticipant
MCP +1! 🙂
The first song I listened to was Scarborough Fair by Simon and Garfunkel. It is one the most beautiful tunes ever composed and I love it!July 17, 2013 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm #1074334
Yerushalayim (Journeys) So haunting.
Apropos of Scarborough Fair, “Dror Yikrah” goes great to that tune.July 18, 2013 6:01 am at 6:01 am #1074335
I thought everyone says good shabbos to evrryone, despite the gender, i do. But maybe cuz im used to a small comunity where everyone knows each other.
But non-jewish/secular music these days has a not so apprpriate style. Ill admit that there are okish songs, i perdonally went through a fase where i listened to only 1 artist of secular music that was ok. But im saying okish secular music can lead to really bad secular music. Just like how a mitzah leads to another mitzvah and an aveirah leads to another aveirah.July 18, 2013 10:26 am at 10:26 am #1074336Shticky GuyParticipant
and have been known to say Good Shabbos to people of the opposite gender, whether I knew them or not
If only we would at least even greet people of the SAME gender instead of ignoring them and walking by!July 18, 2013 11:27 am at 11:27 am #1074337ToiParticipant
am tho frimJuly 18, 2013 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm #1074338
I’m in the “no music mode” until Tevet. 🙁
Ask me then.July 18, 2013 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm #1074339
Shticky, I’m with you. I routinely say good Shabbos to most people, and it really offends me when I say it to a group of young women passing by and NOT ONE OF THEM responds in kind.July 18, 2013 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #1074340🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
If only we would at least even greet people of the SAME gender instead of ignoring them and walking by!
if that’s your dream, try moving out of NY
My first song was the hatzoloh song on the suki and ding safety tape. And I didn’t even have any kids in the car. Go figure.July 18, 2013 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #1074341
(takes a bow)
Shopping, I don’t particularly enjoy rap or pop, which is where you get the inappropriate lyrics. Not saying you should listen, just explaining further that not all secular music is inappropriate.
No point in naming specific songs – apparently the mods know to edit out any song that came out after 1990 only :pJuly 18, 2013 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #1074342
Not nessesarily…i could start to name songs that ive heard in stores and wish id never heard……but i dont think that thr mods would allow that. But i dont listen to nonjewish music, i just dint feel comfortable….July 18, 2013 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #1074343🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
takahmamash – sorry for your loss 🙁July 18, 2013 8:35 pm at 8:35 pm #1074344
Luna: Scarborough Fair is cool :). I don’t really love Simon and Garfunkel’s music (though my father is trying to convert me) but that one’s really good.
My first music was an instrumental cover (cello, piano, and, I think, electric violin) of a non-Jewish song. I have no idea which. It just sounded AMAZING. I think I’m in love with string instruments.
Now the first song I PLAYED was Sunrise Sunset. It’s really pretty on the flute :).
oomis: I have the OPPOSITE problem: when I say good Shabbos to women they kind of pretend I don’t exist. It’s disheartening. Aren’t they the ones who are supposed to be modeling proper manners to the rude youth of today?
In my neighborhood the best bet when it comes to saying good Shabbos to men is to see if they say it first. If the guy’s a friend of my father’s (or possibly MCP 🙂 ) he probably will, and then I reply. Usually, though, they either ignore me or, in one strange case, switch sides of the street. That was weird.July 18, 2013 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm #1074345
Syag Lchochma – thank you, I appreciate it.July 18, 2013 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm #1074346
I would guess that those people ignoring you probably didn’t mean it out of rudeness but rather they are of the same people who wouldn’t socialize with opposite gender and then go extreme by not having any contact at all ie greeting… (with) those of opposite gender (as a “geder” kinda thing)
Well, could be it appears rude and weird but they see it as like totally “lshem shmayim” (cmon benefit of the doubt… will ya’)
in that case those who cross the street are actually telling you, you do exist and therefor they’re avoiding you. 😉July 18, 2013 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #1074348Burnt SteakParticipant
MCP I also used pandora for first music. I know it was either rock or trance music.
About saying good shabbos. I’m used to out of town environment where everyone says good shabbos. But I know sometimes saying good shabbos is also sorta flirting for some people.July 18, 2013 9:59 pm at 9:59 pm #1074349
“takahmamash – sorry for your loss 🙁 “
Ditto – just saw this.
“oomis: I have the OPPOSITE problem: when I say good Shabbos to women they kind of pretend I don’t exist. It’s disheartening. Aren’t they the ones who are supposed to be modeling proper manners to the rude youth of today?”
Writersoul – how is that different from what I posted? That is the exact point I was making! Perhaps your intention was that you say good Shabbos to people in MY age bracket and WE don’t respond (you are a young woman??)
In that evemt, yes, you have the other side of the coin.July 18, 2013 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm #1074350
Saying good shabbos is “flirting”? Are you KIDDING me?!?!?!? That’s like saying holding the door open for someone is flirting. It’s common courtesy.July 18, 2013 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm #1074351
oomis: Yes, that’s it (I’m a teenager). I emphasized “women” because you said “young” :).
I think it’s just a basic menschlichkeit issue when it’s with people of the same gender. I mean, I guess it depends on where you live (you bump into way more people in Brooklyn than in Monsey) but it’s still just a nice thing to do.
I’m fine with people ignoring me (I mean, if they ignore me, I ignore them 🙂 ), but my only thought about the guy crossing the street was that baruch Hashem there wasn’t a car at that moment…July 19, 2013 5:39 am at 5:39 am #1074352
Oomis thank you-I appreciate it.July 19, 2013 7:27 am at 7:27 am #1074353
Please do some spell checking before posting. Thank you.July 19, 2013 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm #1074354
I’m fine with people ignoring me “
I’m not – whether it is ignoring you OR me. People need to stop being so ill-mannered. That is SURELY not Hashem’s Kavanna, when He gave us SO many Halachos bein adam l’chaveiro. A simple response to good Shabbos is not too much to ask. I was very impressed when a certain Rov passed me in the street and said Good Shabbos as he walked by, though he didn’t look at me really. I recognized him, though he could not have known me personally. THAT is a mensch in my book.July 19, 2013 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #1074355
Writer Soul, even in Monsey I get strange looks. Which honestly, makes it even more fun for me.
Burnt Steak – I’m not sure what bothers me more, your SN or Trance music. Unless you’re trying to imply that you wasted your opportunity to be great and there’s no turning back 😀
Shopinng – Sory, I wasnt tryng to say you shud listen. Just that its not all terible and inapropriate.July 19, 2013 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #1074356Oh Shreck!Participant
Sometimes when I greet someone and that person ignores me, I’ll turn around and mutter something like “it’s Shabbos today, no?” or something along that line (you wanna have a bad one?). ??? ????? ????? ?? ??? is for real, so much more to return the greeting. Reb Yaakov ztz”l is known to have always greeted his non-Jewish woman neighbor with a good morning.July 19, 2013 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #1074357
There is also a famous story of a rav (I don’t remember who because I heard this as a child) who supervised a meat-packing plant. It was after 5:00 and the manager wanted to lock up, but the security guard insisted that the rav was still inside. He always said good night to the security guard as he left for the day, and the security guard was positive that he had not seen him leave. The manager just wanted to go home, and told the guard that he must have missed the rav. But the guard was persistent. Reluctantly, the manager agreed to search the plant, and they found the rav locked in one of the freezers. His life was saved because he always said good night to the security guard.July 19, 2013 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #1074358Burnt SteakParticipant
jewishfeminist — I will explain what I mean about the flirting. I know I was vague. I will retract that saying good shabbos is flirting. I will change it to “saying good shabbos leads to flirting.” I have been with friends and when we passed by a group of girls we naturally said good shabbos and they responded. That led to more socialization and we ended up hanging out together at one of the girl’s house.
I agree that it is common courtesy and what happened in my situation might not be the norm. But I’m trying to present the other side of the coin. BTW I’m OOT MO and this stuff doesn’t bother me too much.
MCP — I use the trance more as backround music. SN is more of a personal joke no hidden meanings, but if it was a message then it would be even though steak gets burnt it’s still edible.July 20, 2013 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #1074359
What did i write that you couldnt understand?????July 20, 2013 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #1074360
I think i wrote that its more embaressing when someone says good shabbos to you and you font answer back and they look at you like ‘whats your issue?’July 21, 2013 2:32 am at 2:32 am #1074361proudcanadianMember
i went straight to my piano and played “River Flows in You”July 21, 2013 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #1074362
“Writer Soul, even in Monsey I get strange looks. Which honestly, makes it even more fun for me.”
EVEN in Monsey? Depends where you are. My neighborhood is VERY yeshivish.
Don’t buy the stereotypes 🙂
“‘I’m fine with people ignoring me’
“I’m not – whether it is ignoring you OR me.”
Well, if they think it makes them more frum, that’s their business… 🙂July 21, 2013 6:53 pm at 6:53 pm #1074363
I will change it to “saying good shabbos leads to flirting.”
Perhaps when one is young and not fully mature. I don’t know anyone my age that would say that saying Shabbat Shalom to a member of the opposite sex would lead to flirting.
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