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They were not fallowing common sense they were fallowing extreme ideology, propaganda brainwash and getting cought up in the crowd. Stop making up stories
the fact is that millions of people when asked , would sincerely answer that they are following ‘common sense’ …
agree that they were brainwashed
so were the millions following stalin and mao
but so were the entire population of feudal europe …
so how do you know to judge what really is ‘common sense’ ?
maybe you are also influenced by society around you ??
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.You never asked them so you don’t know and clearly your using extreme examples and missing the point of what common sense is. That’s ok
Common sense has a specific definition..so it’s quite easy to figure out whos fallowing common sense and who isn’t. The point is you clearly don’t even know what common sense is. That’s ok
the only reason you write your comments , is that you simply cannot imagine life in a different society to yours …
this is the plain reality
millions considered nazi outlook as ‘common sense’
that is a fact
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.That’s not a fact lol your making an assumption because your trying to use an extreme example to prove a point that proves you don’t know or use common sense yourself. Honestly. Do you know what common sense is and if you ask the worlds consensus, outside the nazi ideology they would all agree they were fascist and they did great evil. So….what’s your point again?
Common sense means known fact or obvious fact about something that _should_ be self understood
Like do not murder
Do not steal
Treat people properly.
Like why are you guys missing the forest for the trees. My goodness. Typical yeshiva brainwashing can’t have a normal conversation about basic abc cuz you guys lose the basics for the complex. Wakeup hello we aren’t talking about anything so deep. Stop taking this so farFor example a Democrat and a Republican. Why do Republicans see the truth and Democrats do not because Democrats have been brainwashed and sheltered from reality their whole lives and they can’t or don’t want to admit the truth or they don’t see the truth. That doesn’t make “their” common sense, “common sense” it means they are brainwashed and cannot see “common sense” for what it is. Common sense isn’t based off whims it’s called self understood principles that should be plainly obvious and self understood by everyone. And if you don’t understand basic abc that doesn’t mean you have your own “common sense” it means you simply don’t understand basic abc ok?
rescue: so how do you know that your idea of “common sense” is the correct one? Maybe you’ve been brainwashed too?
At the end of the day, we follow the Torah.
Why would you think that something like don’t kill is common sense? Look at nature. It’s survival of the fittest. The strong prey on the weak. Wouldn’t common sense tell us that we should be the same? Maybe the only reason why it’s so accepted that murder is wrong is because the Torah tells us so? It goes back to Kayin and Hevel, when Hashem told Kayin that killing his brother was wrong.I disagree wholly in survival of the fittest, another brainwash mechanism of the elite….survival of the most moral especially in human relationships wins. Animals are not humans even tho we do mirror certain qualities in certain scenarios….but survival of the most moral is how humans servive. The Torah doesn’t tell us that things are wrong and therefore they are wrong. The Torah writes down reality as it _is_ so we don’t go astray and destroy ourselves.
The Torah doesn’t make it wrong, reality does and the Torah is there to make sure we don’t forget it.Are you also one of those that think right and wrong is dependant on beliefs and culture rather then set standards that exist? Cuz sounds like your coming from that camp
rescue: the Torah is the blueprint for the world. So yes, right and wrong exist because the Torah defines them.
No demoshe right and wrong exist and the Torah reiterates it so you don’t forget it. Right and wrong are concrete concepts that exist. That means if the Torah didn’t exist right and wrong would still exist they are living breathing concepts that are hardwired into the fabric of creation. They are concepts that exist irregardless of words written on a page, ideologies, or belief systems
That means no matter what a person reads or believes in his head he can use real world discernment to understand what the truth is irregardless of written wordYour basicly using sheeple mentality to say right and wrong exist. Do you know what right and wrong _is_? I don’t think so same way you can’t agree that common sense is a real life concept
The Torah and reality live together you saying that right and wrong only exist cuz the Torah states it and the Torah states what reality _is_. The reason I’m saying this is because somebody anybody can come and misintprst reality or the Torah and say something the Torah says that the Torah doesn’t say and the way to see that is to know what reality says as well. The only way to know truth is to know it in real life as well cuz the truth and reality mirror what is written. And what is taken out of context and added will not mirror reality at all hence would be considered false. Because existance mirrors the word exactly. If it doesn’t that means it was taken out of context and therefore not true
according to rescue , the republicans ‘have common sense’ and democrats do not …
what is he going to say when republicans split over some issue … which part ‘will have common sense’ ? ? ?
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.lets face it
so called ‘common sense’ changes according to who it is who is proclaiming it …
it changes and varies
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Right, yankel you sound soooo smart
rescue is unwittingly a product of the very same ‘sheeple mentality’ he so despises ….
in a subtle but no less powerful way , rescue is influenced by his surroundings to arbitrarily proclaim his own ‘common sense’
but he does not realize that this very same rescue , planted in a different society , in a different era
would proclaim a very different ‘common sense’ with the exact same verve and conviction as the rescue of our era and our society …
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yankel> , rescue is influenced by his surroundings to arbitrarily proclaim his own ‘common sense’
R Daniel Feldman mentions “bias bias” – everyone is aware that people have biases. Therefore, when evaluate someone’s position, you correct it for their bias. Now, when you are evaluating your own position, you should also correct for bias – but you usually don’t.
Why? Because you experience your own thought process differently from others. With others, you only see the final output – writing, speech, maybe sometimes you hear them talking out load. You then reconstruct their thinking process and correct for biases. With your own thinking, you have access to all details of your thinking. So, you “clearly see” that everything you think is logical and unbiased. No need to go through evaluation!
Maybe a good example is voice. Do you know that you are thinking that your pitch is higher than what you think it is? You get sound from other people through air – while you hear your own sound through your head, which makes those waves lower frequency. Try recording yourself and listening.
Yankel berel common sense is basic principle. It’s not that complicated the fact that all of you are arguing about it shows how out of touch you are “hitler thought he was using common sense”… right….
You sound like how abortionists argue, how extremists argue how alot of out of touch ideologically driven people argue.
Common sense is a basic _concept_It means this: Common sense refers to practical judgment based on experience, shared understanding, and everyday knowledge—such as knowing fire is hot, that you should look both ways before crossing the street, or that sharp objects can cause injury. It’s not about intelligence per se, but about applying basic reasoning and awareness to real-life situations.
Your trying to refute my point by saying common sense is “relative”
So you prob think right and wrong is relative too. Shows you have no grasp of realityYankel berel also you clearly don’t know what sheeple mentality means but I’m glad you like the sound of your own voice
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