June 22, 2010 5:41 pm at 5:41 pm #591817
There are many in the Jewish community that Stutter, yet it’s not talked about, Why not?June 22, 2010 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #688238
Are you implying there is some kind of conspiracy of silence?
What exactly would you like to see discussed about people who stutter?
Feel to free to start off the discussion.June 22, 2010 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #688239
I hope your screen name is not some kind of a joke relating to the title of your thread.June 22, 2010 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #688240bptParticipant
I have a friend who stutters, as does several of his kids. Yet, for some reason, they do not have the problem when they read kryiah. No idea why, but its just an interesting fact.June 22, 2010 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #688241s-h mumMember
Thank you for bringing this up.
I wonder if anyone can help me.
My 3 year old stutters. I asked a few people including a speech therapist what to do about it and they all said to ignore it and it will hopefully go away.
It is now 3 months since he started and it is not any better.
Does anyone have any suggestions what I can do?
ThanksJune 22, 2010 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #688242
Moderator, it’s not some sort of a joke. I stutter.
s-h mom, there is help out there for children. Try Yeled V’yalda, Omni, and there are a few others.
BP Totty, many in the community stutter. No 2 stutterers are alike. Many stutterers have no problem singing as well.June 22, 2010 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #688243smartcookieMember
Mum- most 3 year olds stutter at some point. Mine did too. It went as it came. I would still wait a bit but make sure not to make a big deal of it.June 22, 2010 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #688244anonymrsParticipant
my three year old also stuttered, but it was MUCH more pronounced when he was tired or upset or frustrated about something. i spoke to a speech therapist about it, and she also recommended ignoring it. she said dont make him repeat himself, just figure out on your own what he wants to say and answer him. its been almost 6 months, and its really gotten much better. now its REALLY only when hes tired or whatever.
also, keep in mind that it is an age typical thing, which is why most therapists will tell you to ignore it.
i would suggest that you keep an eye on it for another 3 months, and if it EITHER doesnt get better OR if it gets worse, speak to a therapist about having your child evaluated.
hatzlacha raba!!June 22, 2010 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #688245
I don’t know about stuttering, but I see many children who begin to blink and squeeze their eyes with no underlying reason that we can detect. Also other “tics”. In my experience they always resolve spontaneously, usually after 3-12 months.
In my opinion it is very important to not make the behavior a matter of discussion. You should act as if you do not notice. Be patient and don’t display any impatience whatsoever as your child struggles to say something.
If it continues past 6 mo or so then you might consider seeking some help.June 22, 2010 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #688246
Moderator, your not alone. Many people don’t know anything about stuttering, yet how to react when they come across a stutterer.
There are many teens and adults, like myself who stutter… With small children, b”h many of them overcome stuttering on there own. By the parents not making a big deal of it, and just having the patience to listen till the child is finished talking, and DON’T finish there sentences.
I recently heard of a organization that is starting out, for stutterers and their families.June 22, 2010 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #688247myfriendMember
“Many people don’t know anything about stuttering, yet how to react when they come across a stutterer.”
Would not the best reaction be no reaction? i.e. talk to the stutterer as you would anyone else? That would be my approach.June 22, 2010 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #688248
myfriend, Yes talk to a stutterer as you would talk to a non-stutterer. Just with a little more patience, don’t finish there words, maintain eye contact.June 22, 2010 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #688249myfriendMember
The funny thing is, I tend to finish sentences of non-stutterers and I don’t always maintain eye contact with non-stutterers either.June 22, 2010 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #688250
myfriend, for a non-stutterer..it doesnt affect there speech. It may not be polite, but each to there own.
For a stutterer, if you finish there sentence..it’s very degrading. If your looking at something else while there talking to you, in their mind there thinking…I gotta finish what im saying…he’s getting bored, he’s very uncomfortable around me because im stuttering, etc.June 22, 2010 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #688251effieephraimMember
Both the National Stuttering Association and the American Foundation on Stuttering have valuable information on stuttering available online. Also there is a Jewish Stuttering Association in formation and information is also available online. Most children (about 90%) will outgrow stuttering; however the other 10% may go on to develop a longer term problem. It is best that children be evaluated by a licensed speech pathologist with a specialty in fluency disorders if you have concerns. Approximately 1% of the adult population stutters. The post about not completing the sentences or thoughts of someone is accurate.June 22, 2010 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #688252s-h mumMember
Thank you all for your tips.
I was also told never to finish the childs sentence and to always maintain eye contact.
I hope it will go away really soon.
ThanksJune 22, 2010 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #688253tomim tihyeMember
Some of my most embarrassing moments occurred in my childhood, when I stuttered. One evening, I offered my younger sister’s friend a drink, and, instead of answering me, the friend said to my sister, “Why does your sister say ‘dr-dr-drink’?” I remember crying myself to sleep that night.
Thank G-d, I outgrew it by age 11.
All the stutterers I know only stutter in their primary spoken language.June 22, 2010 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #688254effieephraimMember
I also stutter in loshen kodesh…June 23, 2010 12:42 am at 12:42 am #688255
The following was written by a relative who is a professional speech pathologist. It is in response to this thread and its posts. The author has a Masters in Speech and nearly a decade and a half of experience.
Dysfluencies are a fairly normal occurrence in preschool children (ages 3-5 years) due to the fact that they are still in the process of language learning.
Two red flags to be on the lookout for are:
1. Is there any muscular tension involved in the dysfluency? Is the child literally physically struggling to get the word or sound out?
2. Is the child aware of his dysfluency and does he get frustrated by it or react to it at all?
Anyone who interacts with the child regularly (parents, siblings, teachers, other relatives and friends, etc..) should be given these instructions.
Being a very patient listener is also good advice when interacting with an adult who stutters. They are quite aware of the problem and are usually extremely self conscious about it, which only feeds into the problem. Speech is supposed to flow automatically and if a person thinks about what he is doing while attempting to perform an automatic act, he tends to stumble. You need to be able to concentrate on what you want to say, not what your mouth needs to do to make the sounds come out. If a person who stutters perceives a negative reaction, that will only make it harder for him to get the words out.
The twitching is an attempt by a person who stutters to physically get himself out of the block. The problem is, it works for a while, but when the novelty wears off, the twitch is no longer effective, but it remains. A new one is then added to the repertoire with the same results. In therapy, these would need to be addressed.
Hatzlacha to all.June 23, 2010 4:25 pm at 4:25 pm #688256
effieephraim- the website for the Jewish Stuttering Association is http://www.Jstutter.org
I can only try – maybe have your relative who is a speech pathologist contact the Jewish stuttering asssociation, looks like they are starting up an amazing organization. I myself am eager to see what they have planned for those of us who stutter and our families
I also stutter in all the languages I speak, english, yiddish, hebrew, etc.June 23, 2010 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #688257says whoMember
I stutter sometimes when i speak to people with wich i feel intimidated from, and when I have to say a story or explain something difficult. I think it has to do that i become nervous in these situations and I feel like I have to search for the correct words.
Thats the good part of the CR there is no stuttering.June 24, 2010 12:20 am at 12:20 am #688258
replies from the SLP:June 24, 2010 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #688259
Are there any other stutterers, or former stutterers on here? I read somewhere that 1 in 100 adults stutter, the same is probably true in the Jewish community, no?June 25, 2010 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #688260wanderingchanaParticipant
I don’t stutter, but I do get hung up on words sometimes. The word is on the tip of my tongue, I know what it is, but can’t spit it out. I have to “look” at the word on an imaginary “billboard” in my mind and “read” it off the “board” in order to get it out.June 27, 2010 10:14 am at 10:14 am #688261lesschumrasParticipant
BP Totty said “
I have a friend who stutters, as does several of his kids. Yet, for some reason, they do not have the problem when they read kryiah. No idea why, but its just an interesting fact.”
I can offer an explanation, from personal experience. As a child I had a terrible stutter. It was a result of my mind going at 90 miles per hour and my mouth could only go at 55 mph. In my mouth’s futile attemots to catch up, the words would collide and produce the stutter. However, when I read from a prepared text,
my mind and mouth went at the same speed, and as a result, no stutter.
I’m still a stutterer, but because of the therapy I underwent as a teenager, I learned to recognize the signs of when my mind is starting to accelerate and to learn how to get it to slow down, rather than try to have my mouth catch up. I’ll alwats be a stutterer,it just doesn’t manifest itself as much any more.
All kids with this problem should get speech therapy and support
as other kids can be cruel. What they don’t need is an aunt like mine who thought it was funny to call me a shtimma bebbick, loosely translated as “marble mouth “June 27, 2010 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #688262oomisParticipant
The part of the brain that affects stuttering in speech is not the same one as the part of the brain that a person uses for singing (i.e. as in laining). Mel Tillis, a famous country singing star, has a terrible stutter when he speaks, but never stutters at all when he sings, and docs explained it to him in the way that I just did here.June 27, 2010 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #688263sof davar hakol nishmaMember
lesschumros – that’s an interesting observation. b”h i never stuttered but i do tend to talk quickly. People are always complaining i talk too fast, i try to slow down but it doesn’t always help. I guess my mind doesn’t go as fast as yours causing me to stutter, which i’m quite grateful for!June 27, 2010 10:54 pm at 10:54 pm #688264emoticon613Member
lesschumros, that’s exactly my problem. except that since i also have a slight visual problem that affects my reading, reading from a text only makes things worse. does anyone know if there’s anything (not professional – too expensive) to do about that?June 28, 2010 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #688266
lesschumras-“As a child I had a terrible stutter. It was a result of my mind going at 90 miles per hour and my mouth could only go at 55 mph. In my mouth’s futile attemots to catch up, the words would collide and produce the stutter.”
Isn’t that called Cluttering? There is a difference between stuttering and cluttering. Can any Speech therapist on here confirm?June 28, 2010 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm #688267arcParticipant
why would you ignore stuttering?
get your child evaluated for speech therapy. If you can help them earlier it will prevent it becoming a bigger issue.
An ounce of prevention…June 29, 2010 3:34 am at 3:34 am #688268lesschumrasParticipant
My mother ( she was a widow ) could not affoed it either. An English teacher in my yeshiva suggested and put me in contact with the Speech Department at Brooklyn College. The therapy was done by students, under the guidance of a licened speech therapist at very little cost.June 29, 2010 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm #688269
There are speech therapists who work on a sliding scale.June 29, 2010 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm #688270emoticon613Member
what’s a sliding scale?June 30, 2010 12:14 am at 12:14 am #688271
SLP:June 30, 2010 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #688272
emoticon613 – By sliding scale, I mean some therapists charge you based on what you can afford.June 30, 2010 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #688273arcParticipant
chaimmmm and others. Most Therapists work for agencies and (obviously) dont make the full amount the state pays. As such especially if you’re flexable with the times you can get it fairly reasonable.
Reasonable is relative but if you look at it as a whole instead of $X per hour (say $500) to help my child.June 30, 2010 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #688274
arc – The therapists that usually work for agencies..are for school age children…. Not adults. If an adult wants to go to therapy, chances are it will be private.July 5, 2010 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm #688275
Were are all the stutterers and speech therapists? supposidly 1 in 100 adults stutter. There must be a lot of stutterers in the frum community.
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