Why I'm never giving blood again. By popa.

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  • #602575

    popa_bar_abba
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    Ok, first, because I found out here http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/dor-yeshorim-in-girls-high-school that having blood drawn is worse than giving birth, which is in turn almost as bad as kidney stones, which is almost as bad as a headache.

    But more important. I am a blood type O. That means that I give blood to everyone, but nobody gives blood back to me. Well, why should I give blood to all you bloodsucking jews if none of you are going to give back to me. I would be willing to give if I knew it was only going to go to other type O people, but since it doesn’t, you can all go to blazes. I’ll mix it into my own blazing matza.

    sincerely,

    little red hen.

    #1157741

    147
    Participant

    When you popa_bar-abba are Zochah to settle in Israel, you no-doubt shall have 2nd thoughts on what you just e-mailed the coffeeroom, because the only way of having insurance with Mogen Dovid Odom, is not money; But by being a blood-donor, you have automatic insurance, if you ever neeed to receive, even to receive Blood Group “O”.

    If uninsured, each pint you receive, shall cost in the thousands of whichever currency you wish to name.

    #1157742

    yentingyenta
    Participant

    chicken

    #1157743

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    If uninsured, each pint you receive, shall cost in the thousands of whichever currency you wish to name.

    not one cent for appeasement.

    I’d rather die free than live as a slave.

    #1157744

    farrockgrandma
    Participant

    I gave blood when I was younger, and I needed several transfusions (total 16 pints in one year) several years ago. I definitely got back more than I gave, and I will always be grateful.

    #1157745

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I definitely got back more than I gave, and I will always be grateful.

    Yes. That is precisely my point. I am not giving my blood for all you bloodsucking A, B, and AB people to take from me and not give me. You took more than you gave-I’m not feeding your blood lust.

    #1157746

    147
    Participant

    popa_bar_abba:- Please bear in mind, that in addition to whatever physical benefits you may be limited to, because you are group “O”, I didn’t even mention what spiritual rewards a blood donor receives for Chessed, Lo Sa’Amod Al Dam Rei’acho, saving human life, etc.

    I didn’t mention the spiritual benefits in my 1st posting, as I didn’t think that you popa_bar_abba would be on a level to comprehend this. But this may be a last resort to mention this to you, to convince you, to rethink your original stance.

    #1157747

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Hmm. How much do you think it is worth in rewards each time I donate?

    More than 500 dollars?

    #1157748

    panni55
    Member

    Popa: You obviously don’t know that donating blood is generally good for you, unless you are anemic. It reduces the iron in your blood which lowers your risk for heart attacks, according to a Finnish study. That is why a woman’s risk for heart disease rises after menopause.

    So, do YOURSELF a favor & donate blood!

    #1157749

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    2 things,

    The only reason you give tzedaka is because maybe you will be poor?

    You’re nt interested in the free gifts they give you (your blood replenishes so you only get the free gift, no blood is lost in the long run)

    #1157750

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Popa: You obviously don’t know that donating blood is generally good for you, unless you are anemic.

    So I’ll spill it on the floor. Or drink it. I’m not letting you all take advantage of me, though.

    #1157751

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Oh and another thing,

    Anyone who saves one life is as if he saved the whole world

    (Personally I would like to save the whole world instead of vanquishing a bunch of people)

    #1157752

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Frankly, I find this quite patronizing.

    I am complaining that you expect us type O folks to give you all blood for your emergencies, even though you do not do the same, and don’t even appreciate it.

    You all take blood from type O’s, but don’t give as much as you take. As a class, we are all giving more than we take, while you are all taking more than you give.

    And do you all say “thank you”? No. You don’t. Not one bloodsucking jew on this thread has thanked me for donating my type O blood to you, so that you can speed and drive drunk, and eat unhealthy food, and be saved by me. By my blood.

    All you do is tell me what a great obligation and schar I have. Shame on you all.

    #1157753

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    why should we thank you when you start off calling us “bloodsuckers”?

    #1157754

    iluyish
    Participant

    popa_bar_abba- I am hereby removing the “Mildly” that precedes retarded in your description, and replacing it with a generous best case scenario of “Severely Mentally Incapacitated”.

    Do you only do things that serve yourself? Like if an old woman was crossing the road in front of your car and the light changed you’ld run her over because there’s no benefit to you in waiting? If that’s the case, please identify yourself to me the next time you’re situated in front of my car- I’ld love for you to meet my Goodyears.

    #1157755

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    iluyish: How about when someone does you a favor, you say “thank you” and then just shut it.

    #1157756

    147
    Participant

    Some platelets can be given to & received by any group, so whereas some 30-40 years ago, you popa_bar_abba would have solely been the “universal donor”, nowadays you are not solely the universal donor, just as “AB” is not solely the “universal recipient”.

    As an aside, vis a vis Tzedokoh:- You are always better off to be on the giving end, and not on the receiving end; Even more so, vis a vis blood.

    #1157757

    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    popa -Talk about bloodsuckers, you type O positives just take from us O negatives who REALLY give selflessly. You would leave us high and dry with nothing in return. Except maybe an empty starbucks cup with two used tea bags.

    #1157758

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    syag: Oh, I didn’t realize that.

    Thanks! Can I buy you a beer?

    #1157759

    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    You mean a pint for a pint?

    #1157760

    Health
    Participant

    PBA -You can actually sell your blood, if you don’t believe in donation. You don’t have to drink it or spill it.

    #1157761

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Yes, but they don’t pay for whole blood, only for plasma. And they don’t pay enough to even make the time worth it.

    Which is another reason to not donate. If it is so important, they should be offering to pay me what it is really worth.

    #1157762

    Health
    Participant

    PBA -For s/o unemployed any time is worth it! Also, you can find places that pay for whole blood.

    #1157763

    cherrybim
    Participant

    I give blood five times a year and have done this for the past 20 years and b’h have never needed it. Besides benefiting other Yidden and humankind, Bikor Cholim benefits financially from my gift.

    #1157764

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Also, you can find places that pay for whole blood.

    Well, I haven’t found any by googling.

    #1157765

    I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re trying to be funny. But, nothing funny about this topic at all, especially to anyone who’s had an emergency transfusion. If Hashem gave you the gift of a very special type of blood that can be used to help pretty much anyone, you should be grateful that you have such an easy way to do an important mitzvah. Btw, tonight a woman that I know told me that her husbands life was saved a few days ago by three pints of blood. He almost bled out after serious surgery, but thankfully three kind people did not think it was a joke and donated blood which saved his life.

    #1157766

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re trying to be funny. But, nothing funny about this topic at all, especially to anyone who’s had an emergency transfusion. If Hashem gave you the gift of a very special type of blood that can be used to help pretty much anyone, you should be grateful that you have such an easy way to do an important mitzvah.

    I started the thread to be funny, but I became serious awfully fast. I am dead serious.

    And there you go again, with your sanctimonious <high pitched voice> You should be thankful to have the zchus to be able to do such chessed…</high pitched voice>.

    You know what? My obligations here are between me and G-d. I don’t owe you anything.

    Your obligations, on the other hand, are to me. You should be thanking me, instead of whining about me and my obligations.

    I very seriously find something very disturbing about the attitudes on this thread.

    #1157767

    You’re right, your obligations are between you and G-d and none of us have a right to an opinion. That is if you keep your thoughts or actions to yourself, but you put a serious topic out on a public forum and in a really inappropriate way, that makes it open season on opinions. Sorry that we didn’t all laugh, it wasn’t funny.

    #1157768

    chizz
    Member

    If all the people with blood type o think like u then u definatley will never get back any blood

    #1157769

    MDG
    Participant

    “I started the thread to be funny”

    PBA, I was laughing the whole way through 🙂

    Thanks :>

    #1157770

    Sam2
    Participant

    I think far too many people here don’t realize that almost nothing Popa says is ever serious.

    #1157771

    haifagirl
    Participant

    “I started the thread to be funny”

    PBA, I was laughing the whole way through 🙂

    So was I.

    In all seriousness, though, there are rabbis who hold you should not give blood indiscriminately, but wait until there is a specific need in the community.

    In other words, before you give blood, ask your LOR.

    #1157772

    @sam2 – sometimes even I am not sure…. and I’ve been reading his posts for 2 years or so!

    Now on topic: I wish I had the strength to do it. I’m too scared, too lazy. No excuse really. I should do it as well.

    PBA, without anything about any zchus or whatever, just do it because it does no harm and does a lot of good to help others.

    #1157773

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    I think people got so serious because you called them bloodsuckers,

    People don’t like being called names, dolt

    #1157774

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    You’re right, your obligations are between you and G-d and none of us have a right to an opinion. That is if you keep your thoughts or actions to yourself, but you put a serious topic out on a public forum and in a really inappropriate way, that makes it open season on opinions. Sorry that we didn’t all laugh, it wasn’t funny.

    I see. Is that your best response?

    #1157775

    BTGuy
    Participant

    …..worse than giving birth? …..worse than kidney stones? …..worse than a haddock? What does fish have to do with this?

    #1157776

    A Heimishe Mom
    Participant

    Popa: To be blunt, your post disgusts me. Completely and totally. As a human being as much as as a frum yid. How can you ever ever talk like that? It is rishus and selfishness through and through.

    It doesn’t even hold a candle to birth or kindey stones or anything else. Its a pin prick. Thats it. Like any blood test. It just takes a little longer is all. There are absolutely no side effects (you might feel a little faint or weak if you haven’t eaten). I have donated twice. Once through a bikur cholim, once through NY Blood Bank (it was convenient). I wish I had more opportunites as a healthy adult can donate every 4-6 months.

    There are too many people who are not allowed to give blood for healthy people to shrug off this easy, lifesaving, free (for you) donation.

    As to personal gain – who cares!! You are helping a fellow human being. and Panni55: No, I do not believe there are any health benefits from donating (blood letting as a practice was stopped way back when). Iron is good for you!

    PBA: I really hope you rethink about this.

    #1157777

    panni55
    Member

    A Heimishe Mom & PBA:

    “The Health Benefits from Donating Blood

    By Michael A. Smith, MD

    Donating blood has many health benefits. Not only will you help someone in need of blood, but you will also help optimize your health and wellness. Here are the top three health benefits from donating blood.

    Protect Your Heart by Reducing Oxidative Stress

    Iron in your blood can oxidize resulting in damage to your cells and tissues. The increase in oxidative stress is most dangerous to your cardiovascular system.

    According to a new study published by the American Medical Association, giving blood every six months led to fewer heart attacks and strokes in test participants ages 43 to 61.

    Excessive iron is thought to contribute to heart disease, especially at its early stages. Donating blood on a regular basis reduces the iron stores in the body and this study supports the theory that reducing iron appears to preserve cardiovascular health.

    A second study of 2,682 men in Finland, reported in the American Journal of Epidemiology, found that men who donated blood at least once a year had an 88 percent lower risk of heart attacks than non-donors.

    This same group of researchers published a follow-up study and found that men who donated blood were less likely than non-donors to show any signs of cardiovascular disease.”

    #1157778

    miritchka
    Member

    Oh Popa! You are too much! Yes your blood is needed desparately by every hospital and blood bank! But hey, as much as you give, just remember that as much as your blood is needed for everyone, only someone with type specific is needed more than you! So I, having a rare type of blood, am in a bigger position to give than you! lol!

    Oh, and the reason no one has said thank you to you, you forgot to write you name and contact number on the bag of blood…

    #1157779

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Heimishe: Your post makes me just as sick.

    When I am helping you, you don’t complain about what I say about it, or whether I do it. You just say “thank you.” And that is it.

    And if you don’t want the favor, you say “no, thank you.”

    #1157780

    gefen
    Participant

    I stopped reading after around the 15th or so post.

    But I must say – I CAN’T BELIEVE ALL OF YOU ARE ACTUALLY ANSWERING HIM!

    #1157781

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I stopped reading after around the 15th or so post.

    You didn’t miss anything important after that.

    #1157782

    gefen
    Participant

    I didn’t see anything important before that either. 😉

    #1157783

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Really? I thought this thread was disturbingly enlightening. It started as a joke, and I thought the response would be amusement.

    Instead, I find that all the charges of “entitlement” that we throw around, are severely understated. Apparently, the esteemed members of the CR feel entitled even to my blood, and the only comments they have are to try to guilt me into keeping to give, so that they can receive it from me.

    Of course I’ll keep giving. But that is my bein odom l’makom. Maybe one day you’ll all grow up and start practicing some bein odom l’chaveiro.

    (Ok, apparently this is my first serious thread on the CR. At least it started funny.)

    #1157784

    BTGuy
    Participant

    Donating blood is a serious thing and it seems to me PBA was being humorous. Well, sometimes you gotta try material and it goes, other times it does not. That is the nature of the written expression biz. Hopefully, the unintended wounds opened up by this controversial attempt at light-hearted humor have clotted by now.

    #1157785

    gefen
    Participant

    POPA: Let me rephrase. Yes many people made very good points. It’s YOUR comments that I found weird and unimportant. 😉 Does that clear it up now? 😉

    No – i’m not really being nasty. I’m just picking on you. 😉

    (gotta keep the feud going, no?) 😉

    Did i put enough smiley faces in this post to lighten it up?

    #1157786

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    No – i’m not really being nasty. I’m just picking on you. 😉

    (gotta keep the feud going, no?) 😉

    That’s ok. I’m going to bring chometz into your house.

    #1157787

    BTGuy
    Participant

    lol @ PBA! cute…

    #1157788

    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    pba: What can I do to get the same deal? We’re slowly eating down most of our chometz and all the good stuff is gone.

    What names do I have to call you?

    #1157789

    gefen
    Participant

    oh – ur gonna be in chicago for pesach?

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