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Living on the Land for over 50 years in the worst of places, the most contested areas has allowed me the first-hand knowledge of which I write. This is not heresay, this not gleaned from websites, this is experience 101. When you live, see, know, feel, hear with your Ramach/Shasah the Land, then you can preach what is *proper* and what is not.bluekatchinsParticipantSatmer101
Bnei Brak is a big city, many neighborhoods, some very fancy and luxurious too, some much less so. What happens in one neighborhood, might never even effect another, simply because of the specific *flavor* of that neighborhood and status. What transpired in Bnei Brak was a breach of boundaries, and this has happened before. If the commenter wants to talk about holiness, the Tanakh is full of examples where “keeping the peace” was not the priority when the sanctity of the camp was at stake:Phinehas (Pinchas): He didn’t wait for a committee or worry about “optics” when he saw blatant wantonness in the camp. His “violent” act was what actually stayed the plague and was counted as righteousness.
Elijah (Eliyahu): He didn’t take a “milquetoast” stance against the prophets of Baal. He drew a hard line in the sand.
The Maccabees: They didn’t prioritize being “good citizens” under a regime that tried to rewrite their laws; they became warriors.
The “Wanton” Element
One thing always leads to another. You cannot “troll” a community, disregard its core sensitivities regarding modesty and the role of women, and then act shocked when the reaction is physical.bluekatchinsParticipantAlways_Ask_Questions
What you are basically saying is – stay in the ghetto, don’t make waves, side with those in power, wait for the storm to pass, hope for the best.
I hear you, and this is exactly the tact and stance taken throughout history. You are correct. Things and matters are completely different in the Land of Israel where everyone is someone and every place is an area of open warfare, where nothing is as it was an hour ago and there is no one in places of power who are reliable allies. What may work for the shtetl hugely will never apply to Eretz Yisrael – not even in Orthodox enclaves where there are mosrim disguised as the benevolent person right next to you in shul, there to gather info and to be used against the community at some given point. You have no idea what is going on here. In fact, 99 per cent of people in and out of the Land have no idea the underpinnings of the state – and how deep this goes. Suggest that everyone find the youtube video Herzl and the Jews, then find the Hebrew documentary – excellent – called Maabarot, and from there to the Ringworm Children. Then do some research on eugenics as it was practiced in the 1950’s. The racism that transpired via those at the helm of the state in those days. Once you get a very clear picture on what it is you’re dealing with, how vicious the regime is, how utterly cold-blooded and psychopathic it is, you will understand then how there is only one way to deal – and that is – complete alignment with nothing else but Hashem- mind, body, soul.
For some reason, we chose this time to reincarnate, with these specific souls, with this particular constellation, with these variables and with this element of resha. So, in this we are being tasked not to run and hide and hope for the best, but to assert only Tov. If we get this, we stand a chance and we would have brought this situation around towards the Geulah.
bluekatchinsParticipantIt is worse. Much, much, much worse. It’s not from today, this goes back at least 20 years ago when the brutality started and they took off the kid gloves to put on knuckle-brass ones. There have been instances where people were trampled by horses, thrown to the grown and stomped, whipped with sticks, kicked viciously in all parts of their body without rachamim, where women were hit, shoved and screamed at, where water cannons containing toxic substances were shot at men, women and children, where stun grenades were thrown at a woman and her children, where rubber bullets and stun grenades were thrown at crowds, where there has been systematic rounding up of Jews, infiltration into their homes, shuls and yeshivot. This coupled with the campaign of dehumanization that’s been ongoing in full hatred since 2020 when the media then got onboard with the propaganda machine reporting that the orthodox were spreading disease by not *wearing masks*.
Here is a breakdown of how this has manifested over the last several years:
1. Medicalized Dehumanization (The “Plague” Narrative)
Journalists and commentators described cities like Bnei Brak as “medieval plague cities” or “incubators of disease.”Selective Outrage: While crowds gathered at beaches or protests in Tel Aviv, the cameras remained fixed on Mea Shearim, creating a visual lie that the Haredim were the sole cause of national instability.
The “Science” Excuse: By framing the conflict as “Science vs. Religion,” the media allowed the public to feel intellectually superior while engaging in primal tribalism.
2. Economic Dehumanization (The “Parasite” Trope)
This is perhaps the most persistent and damaging narrative.The “54 Billion” Myth: Media outlets have repeatedly cited inflated or dismantled figures regarding the “cost” of the Haredi community to the Israeli economy. This turns human beings into a “financial deficit” that needs to be “fixed.”
“Sucking the Marrow”: Language used by prominent politicians and broadcasters has often described the community as draining the lifeblood of the productive secular population, effectively stripping them of their human status and turning them into a “problem” to be managed.
3. Dehumanization through “Police Order”
Mt. Meron Incident (2024): Even after the tragedy, reports surfaced of police being told to “hit them so they won’t want to return for 50 years.” MKs have noted that the media incitement led many citizens and officers to view Haredim as “subhuman” or lacking human rights.The “Other” Laws: There is a documented “dual system” of enforcement where Haredi protests are met with a level of violence and mass indictment that is rarely seen in other social sectors.
In the past 24 hours MK Lieberman has called the orthodox in Bnei Brak – mechablim – which means terrorists. This is the word given to the various groups such as PLO in those days, rogue assassins and Hamas. Not the narrative is shifting towards the orthodox in Bnei Brak. Those who can read the writing on the wall need to know exactly where this is heading.
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