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There are many Rabbonim ( I know 2 whom i spoke to directly) who say that you can not dictate to me what I do with my property. Once I purchase the item I can burn it, break it or even copy it. I can purchase an item from a store and then sell it at half price to draw people into my store. Is the original storkeeper happy,absolutley not but once it is im rishus and i have made a kinyan i can’t be stopped. That is the halacha. There is also mentchlichkeit ( hilchos derech eretz etc) which demands that we repect the rights and wishes of others and not do anything that may hurt them.
This has been going on forever and every summer it gets worse. These problems are no big secret.. Yet, although we all know about it, talk about it, and yes, even complain about it there has been no action taken to address this issue.
Other letters have talked about drinking and tznius in Brooklyn. This one talks about the same problems in the mountains.
I for one would like to see one Rav read his mispalilim the riot act. Just one who says this is wrong.
Chosid
That is a problem that has been going on (and ignored) for years… and it works both ways.
People will always try to push the limits of what is acceptable. It is the job of our Rabbonim not to be our friends and cavort with the “guys” but to admonish us and push us in the right direction.
For many Rabbonim fear of losing their job dictates their response and for others it is fear of losing the kovod they enjoy as a Rav.
On the flip side, there are Rabbonim who have sacrificed their own jobs and associations by crying out about this shameful situation. Unfortunately, they are in the minority.
It is our job not to protest anonymously on sites such as this one but to voice our opinion in a more public forum.
The kiddush in question haad goyisha male waiters who spent half of davening in the womens section.I wonder why that is ok?