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  • in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Get Education!) #619721

    goodpop
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    I am really shocked that yeshiva world posted this letter. In the past if someone would even hint of getting an education it would not be posted. What has happenned? Has the editor seen the light and realized that many of the yeshivalite who write to this site can barely write a coherent sentence, forget about spelling and grammar. As a teacher I see the finished products coming out of yeshivas today and it is a shrek. The total lack of basic skills in English, math and vocabulary make many yeshiva boys look like students from third world countries.It is an shame to watch them as many are unable to fill out basic applications or forms and cannot follow written instructions.How sad is it that their wives have to fill out the welfare and food stamp applications because they are unable to do so.

    Yeshivas today that don’t teach at least the basic skills to their talmidim are doing a great injustice to them. How is a bochur supposed to understand some of the difficult sugyos in shaas that deal with math and science.

    If you think this does not have an effect on the klal you are wrong. Doesn’t it seem that the same people are giving the same drashas all over town and it is getting quite boring. Aren’t we producing any new speakers? The answer is no. Most yeshivalite can only speak the yeshivishe “raid” but can’t put together 2 proper English sentences.

    How can our bochurim and yungerlite ever get jobs if they can’t even speak the language.

    in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Who Are Our Camp Counselors?) #619588

    goodpop
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    as an old Camp Agudah counselor I have to laugh at those who knock the importance of having top notch bochurim as your sons counselors. Look around at many of the leading Rabbonim and askonim in America today and many have in common that they were counselors in camp. There they learned how to be mashpia on children, how to be able to talk to a parent about their children,how to speak or actin front of a large audience, how to become a responsible adult who were given the resposibilty of caring for someone elses treasure and most importantly they learned leadership skills.

    Those bochurim who don’t leave the daled amos of the bais medrash are not camp material

    they are more suited to become the next generation of rosh yeshivas. However , most boys don’t fall into that category and go to the country club settings of yeshiva campswith no responsibilities or achrayos and are losing the opportunity of a lifetime to learn these skills and learn how to become vital pieces of the next generation of klal yisroel.

    For many SEED has become a good way to see the country and get out of NY or Lakewood. I am not saying that SEED is a total waste of time but is it more important than providing our own kids the opportunity to have the best bochurim be mashpia on them or some kids in kalamazoo


    goodpop
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    to all of you who think that drinking is not a huge problem in the frum velt you have your head in the sand. ever clean up after a kiddush or any simcha and count the finished bottles of shnaps and beer our heimeshe oilim goes through. we have become no better than the shikkurim who hang out in the bars.

    It started with getting drunk on Purim at the rebbes house,carried over to getting high every Friday night in Yeshivas in Israel and ends up a member of the weekly kiddush club that needs help finding their way home after davenning.

    I have complained to rabbonim, rosh yeshivas and askonim about the need to speak out about this terrible trend but it has fallen on deaf ears.

    R”L we are waiting for an accident to happen before anyone important will say boo.

    By the way, shame on those that spend $150 on a bottle of shnaps to show off to their friends and then drink it like a bunch of drunken sailors in front of their kids.

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