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yichusdik, Nobody ever said we have to protest and confront everybody who is doing something wrong.
However here target decided actively support Toaivah which is a turned me off and perhaps other peopleas well .
I believe all products are clearly recognized as pride products i.e. t shirt with rainbow design and only purchases from these products will the money go for the Toeivah organizations
Sam the lesson I learned from the gemara is to minimize saying not pure things. Tamei is not naki relative to tahor. Toaviah(imho) is better than calling it by it’s name and it’s commonly used word in frum circles.
yichusdik: I use the term Toeivah because I prefer to speak biloshon nikoyon (clean speech) and what it’s frequently used in our circles.
I don’t know of any stores that actively promote stealing as a virtue. Here target is actively promoting a social issue that’s goes against many peoples values. The point isn’t whether they are doing something that I believe is ossur.
You are right that it is a social issue but that doesn’t make any difference. Many social values come from religious values. I never said that it’s forbidden by religion to shop at target (however it might be a question in hashkafah).
yichusdik: If a company would sell merchandise promoting thieving and robbery i.e.
“Proud to belong to the mafia” t shirts, almost everyone would be turned off.
Goq: There is a difference between
1)patronizing a store where the owner is not living up to your moral standards.
2)A store that is actively promoting an immoral (in my view )lifestyle.
For example I could care less about the married life of the CEO or board members of Walmart, but if Walmart would actively promote infidelity in their store, I and lot of people would be turned off.
First of all I don’t do investigations.
As a consumer I don’t care about the personal choices someone may make for themselves.
However here is a company that is trying to promote social policies that are immoral in my view and in the view of many people.
I prefer to take my business elsewhere.
The whole rental business is foolish. Most purchasers of music will copy it to a computer for themselves regardless of the producers wishes as this normal for all music purchases, and permitted under federal copyright law.
People don’t read the small clause and when they do they assume it’s that they may copy it as long as they don’t share it.
Aderet knows that putting it written apparent manner (like in big letters in front) will reduce sales from honest people.
Once it’s off the cd (permissible or not) and in a computer or mp3 player then the original rental agreement loophole does not apply to a dishonest person who copies it for themselves.
Therefore the music industry must rely on people being honest and paying to benefit from someone else’s labor, rather than trying create ways to force people to limit rights in purchases.
No matter what it says on the original package sale or lease, when a second person illegally copies from the someone else’s computer, it seems that there was no actual geneiva. The producer does not own the physical hard drive and the binary digits encoded within.
Therefore it’s very different from the usual case of taking someone else’s physical property.
Even if above is true there might be other issurim involved like hasugas gvul.
Poor girl who most probably did not realize (spaced out/did not see) that she should open the door is now almost a villain.
Let’s try not to belittle real chutzpah (which is plentiful today) by calling everything chutzpah.