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  • in reply to: 2 Luchos on Shovuos? #2080122
    TheLastWord
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    i never heard about Mr DeMille, but I checked him up today and he produced films between 1914 and 1958. Anyone who knows the slightest bit of history will be aware that the common practice to portray the Luchos as round, pre-dates Cicel, and his great grandparents as well. See what Gotagoodpoint quoted from Rav Shach and others…
    Prewar Europe was full of luchos like these on Aron HaKodesh, in the front of seforim etc.
    Maybe that too came from less-that-kosher influences ? but Cicel B Demille cannot claim the fame.

    in reply to: 2 Luchos on Shovuos? #2079975
    TheLastWord
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    Thank you GotAGoodPoint for this (and for your previous post).
    Instead of all the shtusim we have here, someone is discussing something sensible , and interesting! Keep it up!

    in reply to: 2 Luchos on Shovuos? #2079974
    TheLastWord
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    The answer to the OP is mefurah in Targum Yonosan (Shemos 20;2 and onwards)
    to quote the first place (he reapeats this by each Dibra)
    דבירא קדמאה כד הוה נפיק מן פום קודשא יהי שמיה מברך הי כזיקין והי כברקין והי כשלהוביין למפד דינור מן ימניה ולמפד דאישא מן שמאליה פרח וטייס באויר שמיא וחזר ומתחמי על משיריתהון דישראל וחזר ומתחקק על לוחי קיימא דהוון יהיבין בכף ידוי דמשה ומתהפיך בהון מן סטר לסטר ובכן צווח ואמר עמי בני ישראל אנא הוא אלהכון די פרקית ואפיקית יתכון פריקין מן ארעא דמצראי מבית שעבוד עבדיא

    The Hebrew translation (to quote כתב יונתן)
    דיברה [דיבור] ראשונה כאשר היה יוצא מן פה הקדוש יהי שמו מבורך כמו זיקין [ניצוצות אש] וכמו ברקים וכמו שלהבות לפיד של אש מן ימינו, ולפיד של אש מן שמאלו פורח וטס באויר השמים וחזר ונראה על מחנותיהם של ישראל, וחזר ונחקק על לוחות הברית שהיו נתונים בכף ידו של משה ומתהפך בהם מן צד לצד ובכך צווח [קרא] ואמר עמי בני ישראל אני הוא אלהיכם אשר פדיתי והוצאתי אתכם פדויים מן ארץ של מצרים מבית שיעבוד עבדים

    And for those who prefer English – something along the lines of ….
    The first Dibra that came out of Hashems mouth like lightning and flashes of fire, a flame from His Right Hand, and a falme from His left Hand, it flew around in the air and returned to the Camp, and then went and engraved itself onto the Luchos which were held in Moshe’s palm, and went through from one side to the other and called out etc. ….

    He clearly says that Moshe was holding the Luchos during Matan Torah!

    in reply to: Boycotting Companies #1998367
    TheLastWord
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    It’s one thing to ‘punish’ aforementioned companies for the part they played 70 years ago. It’s doubtful that they will feel the pinch or notice that a they are losing out from a potential client base,
    but I CANNOT UNDERSTAND how Jews frequent the concentration camps in the thousands,making a huge difference to the economy of these countries, and they are making a huge profit directly from the [parts that they played in] the Holocaust. Even if visiting the camps themselves is entirely free (it is not, the film costs etc.) just the plane tickets, transport, food, hotels etc. are a huge boon to the countries, and it is visibly Jewish money. Personally i could buy a BMW or Hugo Boss but could not tour Germany or Poland, certainly not the concentration camps.
    I don’t know if it’s advisable to antagonize those who hate us, but if i could, i would insist that no-one spends a single tourism dollar until a fund is set up and for every tourist in Auschwitz (etc.) the government has to pay $50 (which they are unlawfully gaining from the Holocaust) towards compensating Holocaust survivors, paying back to victims’ inheritors, and donating to causes that benefit the Jewish Nations eg. Hospitals, Hatzolo etc. .

    in reply to: Kid names #1978935
    TheLastWord
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    What about simcha. or simcah zissel. that would cater for every gender possibility.

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