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gavra: There’s nothing to prove. It isn’t just them. Even the RCA denounced the very idea of a simple title change to rabba from maharat. A simple title change! Denounced. From all corners. On this matter the entire Orthodox rabbinic world, from chasidic to litvish to modern orthodox all agree.
Oh, please. When the rabbonim in America pre-WWII tried to fix something as simple as Kashrus, yes Kashrus!, the Hamon Hoam of pre-WWII America, shooed those rabbonim out-of-town and gave them great heartache and problems. That happened to the Chief Rabbi of New York, who died as a result of this heartache, as well as in Chicago.
That’s kind of place you expect the rabbonim to send the frum Jews of Europe to come to?! They would have risked shedding their Judaism faster than a speeding bullet.
That’s absurd. Not only would Rebt. Davis never seek smicha, Rav Kaminetzky and Rav Feinstein would never give any woman smicha. Which furthers my aforementioned point. Perhaps contact Rav Kaminetzky and Rav Feinstein and advise them that in your infinite wisdom you have determined that it is okay to give women smicha, and perhaps they’ll both nod their heads and agree with you changing their previous position, and start issuing female smichas.
The doors to immigration were closed to mass immigration from the mid-1930s and on. No country, not British Palestine and not the United States, were allowing mass immigration. Even if the Jews wanted to, they couldn’t leave. Before the run-up to WWII emigration was a bit easier but no one was a prophet to know that the worst genocide against Jews was coming up.
Furthermore, not only is it true that a poor Jew is more likely to remain frum than a rich Jew who has many more opportunities and available taivos to go off (and if that is what it takes to keep them frum it is better to be a poor frum Jew than become a rich secular Jew), but even more importantly pre-WWII most Jews who came to America from Europe threw their Talis and Tefilin into the Hudson as they passed the Statue of Liberty. (Figuratively, not literally. The point being that most of them — and especially their children — discarded their Judaism once in America.) So the rabbonim, wisely (not knowing in advance that genocide was to soon occur) advised folks to stay in Europe where they had been living for 2000 years.
levlalev: If you want to know what kind of provocateur Lipman is, see this video of him:
benignuman: Why don’t you ring up the ten of the greatest men of our generation constituting the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah and set them straight? They, in their lesser wisdom than yourself, collectively and unanimously strongly denounced the “simple” changing of “Maharat” Huruwitz’s title, yes just a title!, to “Rabba”.
Considering all your wise arguments how halacha allows women nowadays to get modern smicha and become rabbis, for crying out loud, how could those old men publicly and strongly act against a simple title change for a woman to rabba?!