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Thank you for stating the obvious. These days, the obvious must be stated plainly.
Re’fu’ah She’lei’mah!May 13, 2019 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm in reply to: Does Rav Chaim Kanievsky shlita prohibit men from shaving their beards? #1726532
The idea is the goad me into confrontation? Sorry, no bite…my comments and the spirit in which they were expressed were clear. Go learn as shall I…Defend be’nei Torah from the onslaught of a secular Israel/tzi’yo’nim and other frei-Jews/e’rev rav who would be o’qeir To’rah completely, if hey could…Worry not if your fellow Be’neiTorah have beards or not…Much of me’so’rah to which we hold fast was upheld, preserved, and transmitted to this generation, i.e., Slabutka, etc., in which there were those who were without beards. Go learn and help other Be’nei Torah and try to be me’la’med ze’cho’yoth not pe’gam. We are attacked from all sides…we don’t need this from within…You could be passionate about so much more. Perhaps raising tze’da’qah for Be’nei Torah who are hungry tonite…May 13, 2019 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm in reply to: Does Rav Chaim Kanievsky shlita prohibit men from shaving their beards? #1726445
Cha’zaq u’Ba’ruch…Surely, one’s time could be better spent learning Torah rather than exalting oneself above others. Furthermore, this is not where someone should be asking she’ei’loth in ha’la’chah as each te’shu’vah must be “answered” to fit the circumstance of the sho’el. Pronouncements of such broad-spectrum given the complicated sugia involved are silly and unproductive and serve only to paint another pious Jew as being “goyish” or not Jewish enough by those who believe themselves to be more pious than others…as the sif’rei mu’sar describe how those who cut down others are looking to raise themselves above their fellow. I, for one work in medicine where a beard becomes a potential source of bacterial spread to my patients just as the wearing of ties or long sleeve shirts. Hopkins studies have demonstrated the presence of coliform bacteria in men’s beards resulting in se’qa’nah to my immunocompromised patients. No, to answer your questing. washing doesn’t help…The chutz’pah of one who would make such a pronouncement is unbelievable. However, we live in a time of great chutz’pah…Cha’zal warn that the times leading up to the coming of ma’shi’ach would be ma’lei with such behavior even among the mam’le’cheth ko’ha’nim, goy qa’dosh. We can do better.
How can there be viral shedding from a dead vaccine? Why do you anti-vaccine people speak falsehood?
I have no intention to be goaded or seduced into machlochet to answer vitriol with more vitriol. Most who have answered me seem more interested in cultivating personal machlochet with me. This type of forum seems to invite behavior among normally frum who would never act thusly to their fellow when greeted personally face to face — another reason why I tend not to post in this type of venue. No, I have not posted until now b/c I was not so motivated until this avlah was committed in public which demands be’nei Torah stand against populist rhetorical complaining and murmuring. Those who have answered me have assumed much in both ignorance and error. However, this is not about me or my children. My true “feelings” which have been questioned? — I believe Mr. Rechnitz to be a very wonderful man who means well and only has love for k’lall Yisrael…He is one of few who who loves k’lall Yisrael enough to actually spend his own resources (time, money, and human energy) to accomplish real “building” — literally and figuratively. One the other hand, just b/c one has expressed sentiment harbored by “many” and “has some good points” does not make one qualified to express these sentiments in a kosher way in public. I have no doubt that Mr. Rechnitz regrets his words today. That is not to say that status-quo is good or even adequate or that much doesn’t need to be done. However, it would better serve the community by acting IN CONCERT WITH da’ath Torah under the guidance and direction of those qualified to direct movement that has goal to make repair rather than getting up in a public venue to express every frustration and sentiment that one harbors. More damage can be wrought by opening one’s mouth in a non-kosher way than remaining silent. Is not the damage already apparent just from the posts here which have pitted be’nei Torah/yeshivah community against Ba’alei battim, kollel against their fellow? Has this speech served to heal or motivate change or has it polarized a community already somewhat divided? Yes, better to remain silent…Alternatively, use the influence which HaShem has bequeathed IN GREAT MEASURE to JOIN FORCES with da’ath Torah to effect positive change rather than murmuring against it. Think of how this very nice man has squandered his hard gained influence and good will through poorly chosen verbal expression. Unfortunately, the feathers can not be re-gathered and placed back into the bag…Now, there is only to minimize the damage and heal the community.
In any other circumstance my post would be inappropriate as it would be be’geder lashon hara…However, once the speech has been made and later reprinted, it requires answer from benei torah.
This speech consisted of populist feel-good rhetoric meant for self aggrandizement and public self pleasuring for personal gain for the further purpose to increase populist standing without regard to the damage such words would cause…a jewish Trump. While some of the sentiment is correct, it is just that, sentiment, devoid of careful reasoning and positive approach or inspiration to a community regarding the issues addressed.
It is easy to tear down a community and be amongst those who sit in the back of the shul and complain, the “they should” crowd…they should…they should..they should…there should be…there should be…there should be…It is easy to join the “they should” crowd. This was not the sort of rhetoric appropriate for public consumption and will only stoke the coals of populist murmuring and discontent among our congregation; it will cause only further division.
Do you think that every principal and rosh ha’yeshivah has not anguished and cried over every child who can not find a place? This approach was most inappropriate and serves only to deride and tear down. There is little positive here. This was a waste of influence from a most well-meaning wonderful man who has so much ze’uchuth in his pocket who strayed into foreign territory squandering his potential influence and ability for engendering good will and even more importantly, good results…He could have used his position and influence to inspire and offer positive solution without the negative and words of destruction. He most likely regrets terribly his words.
Those who write and say that “it is about time…” are mislead by populist sentiment without regard for reality and the good works of others who work behind the scenes for the good of all. The speech which was entirely one-sided left out consideration for the parents who have placed in their child’s mind that he “must” get into such-and-such a school “or else”; if hd doesn’t get in, he will be a failure. Parents are sharing everything which is inappropriate to share with their children these days and discuss in front of their children that which should not be, just to mention one or two small examples. Today, everything is discussed with and in front of our children without regard for what is appropriate and what is not. Every sentiment and “feeling” the parent has is discussed with and in front of the children today without sense of propriety or realization of the potential damage. No wonder the child is heart-broken after having been set up by his own parents. We do not guard our tongues in front of our children…
This is far too involved to fixed with a few posts from be’nei torah on a web-site. May HaShem heal us from this terrible avlah and may we learn from our mistakes and become better people and avdei-HaShem; may we better learn to remember what is appropriate public speech and what is not.