An Eitza Against The Yetzer Harah.

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  • #639959

    kapusta
    Participant

    teen and moish:

    Just one time, when you have a “small” yetzer hara to do something you know you shouldn’t be doing. something small that will not have a direct impact on the rest of your life. don’t do it. even just to be able to come onto the CR and tell us all that you battled succesfully (just think of what that would do to areivim) again, not something major.

    BTW, when you open a package of food on Shabbos, do you specifically look to make sure not to tear any letters?

    #639960

    moish01
    Member

    kapusta, no. why do you ask?

    #639961

    myshadow
    Member

    Wow I just read through this whole thread and I’m feeling so inspired!! Thanx aveirim, open book, kapusta, and everyone else that contributed to this, btw moish you inspired me also!!

    True my teen yrs are b’h over but every once in a while the old urges will pop up, whosever been there knows what I’m talking about so thanx y’all!!

    #639962

    an open book
    Participant

    🙂 i was mentioned as inspiring! that rly perks me up cuz sometimes i worry…or more like always… that im doing more harm than good even when trying to help. thank you myshadow!

    & areivimzehlazeh & kapusta & moish01, et al: i am learning from all this too! thanx!

    #639963

    kapusta
    Participant

    you said a while ago that you dont do things l’hachis but I wanted to know if you will look out for the stuff that might not be pulling you. (I chose that I assume it wont be of great importance to you to tear letters on shabbos) but why not take something like that, which is definitely not habit and try to work on that. simple and not forcing you to do something you dont want (and btw, it’ll make some people here very very happy)

    #639964

    kapusta
    Participant

    thanx for the double mention, I’m happy those posts accomplished something.

    #639965

    moish01
    Member

    kapusta, i don’t even know if that’s really assur. sound like a really annoying one because the thought doesn’t actually enter my mind.

    i guess if i wanted to i could always pass it over to a friend to open for me… 😉 (haha jk – if it’s really assur i’d feel like such a creep doing that…)

    #639966

    Curious
    Member

    BTW, this thread is awesome – I know I’m learning a lot here. Even non-challenged teens have a lot to learn!

    I’m not careful about modeh ani the way I should be, but because of this thread I made sure to say it this AM (and I even had moish in mind!)

    #639967

    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    B”H- at least all my ranting is accomplishing something, somewhere, for someone

    #639968

    kapusta
    Participant

    curious glad to hear that

    moish and so what if its not assur deoraisa and only derabanan? its still a start.

    and btw, that wouldn’t help you it would just be machati

    to the general CR public: last night I checked the CR really late and when I was in bed, right before falling asleep, I did a kind of “bulk davening” for all the CRers with problems, ones that are off, need shidduchim etc. just thought I’d let you know

    #639971

    moish01
    Member

    gee thanks, kapusta.

    oh and i think there’s a tshuva somewhere that says that ripping words is not a problem altogether. unless i made that up. no idea where you could find it.

    #639972

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    kapusta: your posts are amazing!!! thanx for davening for the cr klal!!!

    over shobbos during tefillah, i had many cr members in mind in my davening!!!

    #639973

    kapusta
    Participant

    asdf that was great. I think I once heard that tefilos on shabbos are stronger (if thats how you would say it) and btw, thanx

    moish I cant imagine that not tearing letters is just a bunch of hype over nothing. maybe someone could help clarify it.

    This will hopefully appeal to your sense of guilt, but the entire shabbos at totally random times I kept on davening for you. I dont think I ever really understood what it meant not to be shomer shabbos until I read about your phone. I guess I never really thought about it before but it made my davening much stronger for you then it ever was.

    I have a bit of a proposition for you but before you answer just keep in mind that this week is Rosh chodesh Adar, and remember what happened a year ago. Take for a month, or establish some other sort of time limit, and take an hour every week (when youre up) to live as a completely frum jew. That means brachos, davening, kissing the mezuzah, (maybe even learning) whatever it is, just the basics, remember this is not indefinitely, just for a month, and only for an hour at a time and for the rest of the time, continue exactly as you are.

    #639974

    moish01
    Member

    kapusta, what’s the difference between using a phone and playing ball in the park?

    actually, if anything the phone is much more b’seter than playing ball 😉

    #639975

    kapusta
    Participant

    moish I was looking for an answer and I dont think b’seser isn’t too much better then b’galui but I’m not a rav

    #639976

    moish01
    Member

    you know i’m not gonna answer you. i don’t have the energy.

    #639977

    kapusta
    Participant

    ok, you can not answer if you want but just admit that its a good proposition and its not indefinite so you can go back to do whatever you want. and btw, maybe you dont want to admit that you want to or something but I really think you do want to do it. something tells me your not so happy in your position right now and youre looking for a way out. btw, this was not intended as a challenger just to prove a point and this was the only way to say it. sorry

    #639978

    moish01
    Member

    maybe i’m not 100% thrilled with my life, but then again, not too many people are. and it’s way better than before so i can’t complain.

    i can’t do it and i can’t explain why not. it’s not something you’ll understand. physically, it probably wouldn’t be a big deal. but i’m still not going there.

    #639979

    kapusta
    Participant

    should I tell you that I basically am with mine? I’m asking you again, so maybe not for a month, maybe just two weeks. and btw, your title of “is always nice to girls” is in jeapordy.

    let me just make one more point and again I’m not trying to challenge you or anything just explain something to you and prove a point. if mashiach would come tomorrow and he would ask you if you think you deserved to be saved, what would you have to show for yourself? I’m sorry the question is so direct but theres no other way to say it.

    #639981

    kapusta
    Participant

    I was thinking about this and I decided that I will respect your right to privacy (I dont know why) and if you feel that you cant right now then dont. but two points. 1. you’ll give the idea some thought and maybe one day do it. 2. do something that you will commit to. something other than modah ani (even though I’m all for it) that even in the middle of the day you’ll think about it. maybe making one a mezonos on all the “mezonos” products you eat or maybe washing on bread or whatever.

    I’m waiting for an answer to this and my last post.

    #639982

    moish01
    Member

    kapusta, honestly how many people think they do deserve to be saved? are YOU all that good? why am i the only one that has to answer that question here?

    #639983

    moish01
    Member

    kapusta, i actually did respond to you post a few hours ago and i haven’t the slightest idea why it didn’t get through. i don’t even remember what i said anymore.

    #639984

    Belev Echad
    Participant

    moish PLEASE PLEASE forgive me for saying this so straight, but im just not the type who butters things up.

    people who actively try to improve, regardless of how successful they are, deserve to be saved by Mashiach more than those who agree it’s a good thing to do but don’t try.

    #639985

    kapusta
    Participant

    I guess your just the lucky one 😉 ok, when I originally wrote the post I actually phrased it differently and I put in a thing over there to the CR public, but I took it out because it just sounded wierd. am I all that good? I dont know but I definitely try to be. no I am well aware that I am not perfect and I’m also far from good. I know that this will sound very much holier-than-thou but before I posted it I asked myself that question and I only submitted it when I had an answer.

    I’m being rough on you today so I’ll try and make this one light(er) 1. no one can remain at a stationary level spiritually. You dont have to tell me or anyone else but just ask yourself if your going up or down? I think the answer might surprise you.

    2.make yourself a sort of cheshbon hanefesh at the end of each day, but dont make it a regular one with the pros and cons. just tell yourself three things you did that made you or will make you a better person. you have a very negativa attitude toward yourself and regardless of it being true or not, a positive outlook will give you much better results than anything your getting now.

    now I’ll let you chill a little; make yourself an oreo milkshake

    #639986

    kapusta
    Participant

    mods what did you do with my post? mod 39 I know your number (name) yes its 39, see? 39 39 39 39 I would write it 39 times but I feel bad for whichever moderator would have to go through it, and me who has to type it

    #639988

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    kapusta: for some reason he likes trio’s better than oreo’s.$

    #639989

    moish01
    Member

    haha only the ones with chocolate inside. i’m getting sick of them, though. time for something new…

    #639990

    kapusta
    Participant

    qwerty good point I forgot about that

    #639991

    kapusta
    Participant

    how about a nice crisp salad? with trios as croutons? jk

    #639993

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    moish: yay, that’s good, go back to oreo’s.$

    #639995

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    moish: so what’s the next fave food of yours????

    #639996

    kapusta
    Participant

    qwerty I’m waiting for you in the post here if youre in the CR thread

    #639998

    moish01
    Member

    ok, i give up, kapusta. posted it a second time and it’s still not showing up.

    seems like #39 isn’t too keen on a new friendship after all. (see guys? i told you! he’s keeping his distance already. i guess i’m just a bad influence by nature.)

    I’m still new here. Can’t anger the higher-ups. So I’m trying to be extra cautious. YW Moderator-39

    #639999

    moish01
    Member

    i dunno. i’ll eat almost anything. don’t worry about me – i’ll find a new item to get hooked on 😉

    #640000

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    moish: that i wasn’t worried abt!!!

    #640001

    kapusta
    Participant

    moish that was your idea to repost it, I never asked you to please refer to earlier posts about the bad influence parts

    #640002

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    mod39: that’s good, it’s always best to be extra careful on the first day.$

    #640003

    moish01
    Member

    hey 39, there’s nothing wrong with it! really. i read it through a million times – i’m not a complete idiot – i’d know if it were treif…

    #640004

    moish01
    Member

    kapusta, you know how to play chess? after one side attacks, the other side gets a chance to move.

    #640005

    I refer the honorable Gentleman to my previous response

    #640006

    kapusta
    Participant

    moish just give in and repost it tomorrow when you can deal directly with the higher ups…and when hes sleeping

    sorry mod 39 😉

    No Need to apologize, and no need to resubmit. I left it for the other Moderators to approve. It was not deleted -YW Moderator-39.

    #640007

    asdfghjkl
    Participant

    mod39: extra cautious, is good!!! hatzlacha!!!

    #640008

    moish01
    Member

    oh god. terrible night. first kapusta, then anonymisss and ames and now you. i should have forced my friends to go to the city tonight.

    #640009

    kapusta
    Participant

    moish quit complainig I’m being really nice to you the entire night, the whole time I kept apologizing and now I’m not even screaming at you anymore. (just give me a little more time lol)

    #640010

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    mod39: oh so nice.$

    #640011

    kapusta
    Participant

    mod 39 I agree with qwerty, that was plain nice of you…leaving someone else the dirty work…jk

    #640012

    qwertyuiop
    Member

    kapusta: of course you agree with me, everybody does.$

    #640014

    kapusta
    Participant

    qwerty youre starting to sound like me I’m begining to fear for you

    #640015

    anonymisss
    Participant

    moish, what’d I do wrong???? I really thought I was innocent this time. Please let me know if you feel otherwise.

    Thank you in advance,

    ~a~ (lol, I signed my real name by mistake!!!!)

    #640016

    kapusta
    Participant

    anonymisss I’m with you, well partially, I also didnt do anything wrong and ames gave me mussar and moish agreed! and this is all when I’m not feeling well!

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