December 19, 2010 8:48 am at 8:48 am #593586
This thread is not whether or not someone should or should not have a TV at home or watch TV. It is not a discussion. It is a simple Yes or No, so that we get a feel when we have other discussions of who we are talking to.
I’ll start. No, I do not have a TV at home.December 19, 2010 10:48 am at 10:48 am #722410amichaiParticipant
noDecember 19, 2010 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm #722411
‘It is a simple Yes or No, so that we get a feel when we have other discussions of who we are talking to.’
Can you please elaborate on that? What do you mean ‘we know who we are talking to’???
Sounds pretty condescending to me, not to mention quite disingenuous coming from somoen who has internet,!!December 19, 2010 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm #722412real-briskerMember
NODecember 19, 2010 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm #722413tzippiMember
No, but I do have a computer.
Maybe you want to also ask what kind of filters people have to get a more complete profile?December 19, 2010 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm #722414
Poster (OP) is correct. Often we see people posting their Hashkofos Hatelevision with their views here.December 19, 2010 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #722416
Aishes Chayil, please dont take this personally. It is a simple question, just like some say they want to know your gender to get a better idea of who they are talking to, some want to know your age, some want to know your shoe size and I am asking about a TV. (Be happy no one is asking your dress size!)December 19, 2010 1:55 pm at 1:55 pm #722417Shticky GuyParticipant
No I dont.
AMUSING ANECDOTE: When I had my house decorated the guy asked what to do about the TV sockets in the wall. I said he should remove them. When we came back, he said “I took out the ones downstairs, but left the one in the main bedroom – thats what a lot of guys in the Jewish area ask me to do”!!!December 19, 2010 2:09 pm at 2:09 pm #722418TheGoqParticipant
Yes, I own a TV. If you feel the need to look down your nose at me for that, than so be it. I feel no shame in owning a TV.
I own a coffee maker too. What do you think that means?December 19, 2010 2:32 pm at 2:32 pm #722419
TheGoq, no one looks down at you. Like I said this is a simple questionaire…December 19, 2010 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #722420
Yes.December 19, 2010 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm #722421
I have no problem admitting my dress size or my weight, lol!
That doesnt prompt anyone’s biases…..
Do I have at TV?
I wish to assert my 5th ammendment privelege, lol! ( you dont have to take that as a ‘yes’or a ‘no’)
Truthfully speaking, I dont think it should make a difference to anyone . Especailly if they have internet;))..December 19, 2010 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #722422WiseWomanMember
i own a tv! im happy to have it. why? because it comforts me when my husband works crazy hours. iy”H when i have kids it will go but until then its staying put.
I am with TheGoq on this one! Exccept Goq I got a Keurig, ya think in like 20 years from now I’ll have a problem with my kids shidduchim cuz of it?? lol
here’s a story-
acouple comes to rabbi Freifeld and says the wife wants a TV because she doesnt like being home alone whenn husband works late etc. rabbi freifeld says they can get it but dont enjoy it. but u know what i spoke to my rav and he told us its ok to have it. my husband wasnt thrilled but i need it. Enough said!
oh and while im at it…I am a woman…Who DRIVES!!!!(I hear thats an issue among certain ppl)December 19, 2010 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #722423dunnoMember
Wow, that’s funny!December 19, 2010 3:32 pm at 3:32 pm #722424cantoresqMember
I don’t have “a t.v.” in my house.December 19, 2010 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #722425
I can tell most posters here whether they have a TV or not, based on the content of their views here.December 19, 2010 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm #722426tikvuchkaMember
we live in a house that has a tv upstairs but its not ours, and i saw from the first couple of weeks that it killed my marriage so i stopped watching.December 19, 2010 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #722427
I think it is a loaded question and one you don’t have a right to ask. Yes you can say people have a right not to answer but I say you don’t have a right to ask. No, you don’t have the right to judge others or get a feel of “who you are talking to” by whether or not they have a tv. AC, I agree with you.December 19, 2010 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #722428
I have no problem with owning a TV. There is a LOT of really excellent TV well-worth watching, and a lot of garbage. Do you own a book? Maybe we should not read anything anymore, or get educated, or go out in the street because of what we might see out there, or work in a workplace where we could potentially see something we shouldn’t, or eat out in restaurants, or listen to the news ont he radio, or read a newspaper. Maybe we should just return to the Dark Ages while we are at it. But wait – bad things happened then, too.
Own a TV or don’t, but don’t make negative judgments on the basis of who does and who does not. Because when you do that, you are no holier than the person you judge negatively.December 19, 2010 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm #722429ItcheSrulikMember
TMB: Really? Do you think I have one?December 19, 2010 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm #722430
Trying My best,
I am POSITIVE that you dont know whether or not I have a tvDecember 19, 2010 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm #722431cofeefanMember
Excellently said oomis!December 19, 2010 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #722432
Poster- today’s days, it’s a bigger problem to have internet at home, rather than a TV.
No jokes here.December 19, 2010 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #722433
aries2756, why are you on the defensive? It is such a simple question. I dont mind if you judge me for being a certain type because we dont date but “sit in”/ beshow. If there is something you are comfortable and confident with then you don’t feel the need to hide it.December 19, 2010 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #722434WiseWomanMember
OOMIS I totally agree with you!!!December 19, 2010 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #722435charliehallParticipant
No, we do not have a TV at home, at least not one that receives over the air broadcasts. We sometimes rent videos or DVDs and watch them either on a computer screen or on an old TV that no longer receives over the air broadcasts.December 19, 2010 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #722436
Itche: You’re a tougher one, partially because you’re newer here. But I’d venture to say, you probably don’t have one in your home, but are not antagonistic to watching stuff whenever you have the opportunity.
How did I do? 🙂
AC: I am quite certain you watch TV regularly (i.e. at more than once a week). And I wouldn’t even believe you if you denied it.December 19, 2010 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #722437HomeownerMember
No one has the right to demand information from the membership.
What next, “do you keep kosher?”December 19, 2010 8:14 pm at 8:14 pm #722438Midwest2Participant
No TV. Not for ideological reasons, I just don’t like the junk that’s on it. I do have internet and already waste enough time surfing. And since I don’t have kids at home – no filter. I also have a DVD player and watch the occasional movie from the library. At my age if I haven’t learned how to choose what’s appropriate I’d be a hopeless case and supervision wouldn’t help anyway 🙂
I also don’t look down on people who have TV or internet. Just, if you’ve got kids around, be very careful to monitor what they see.December 19, 2010 8:22 pm at 8:22 pm #722439whatrutalkingabtMember
The OP is not really demanding information. Just asking so that He/She can better understand what type of person they are talking to.
Not that I think it’s such a nice thing to ask…
And no I don’t have one and never did have one.December 19, 2010 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #722440
Well believe this- you have a very distorted notion of how I keep myself busy.
But I am a very good judge of charachter , and frankly……..
Btw, there was a poster here long ago who used the screen name Joseph. You two have a lot in common. I’m wondering if you ARE him!December 19, 2010 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #722441
Anyone that is taking this thread personally must believe there is something wrong with a TV. Because if there is nothing questionable about it then there is no reason to get defensive.
I have no problem answering this question – NO I DO NOT HAVE A TV!December 19, 2010 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #722442
I applaud you for having at least been intellectually honest enough this time not to deny it, after having been POSITIVE.December 19, 2010 9:08 pm at 9:08 pm #722443
I’m not defensive, I think it is wrong for people to be nosy and try to find out about people in order to judge them. I have a problem, which I explained in another poss about Yidden judging other Yidden and jumping to conclusions. That’s it. Why is it necessary to know if one has a TV, or if they check out another similar blog as this one, or if they live in BP, Flatbush or the Five Towns so they can automatically pre-judge and assume they know all about them because of where they live or what they do? Actually as I said, it is wrong and it is no one’s business. It is prying and unnecessarily so in an attempt to judge and make assumptions. Why is that being defensive if I mention that?December 19, 2010 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm #722444
aries2756, Who is talking about judging? And why are u so sure what direction I am judging if I am at all. Different folks differnt strokes. We are meant to be different. What a boring world if we would all be the same. So in this thread we are just seeing how diff we actually are. That is all. No one is trying to judge you or or to pry or to make assumptions. Just to have some fun…December 19, 2010 9:52 pm at 9:52 pm #722445
I see nothing terrible about asking a question. Those who choose not to answer, will not answer. But whatever your answer is, don’t feel you have to defend it. Just don’t judge anyone negatively, either way.December 19, 2010 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #722446
I applaud YOU for remaining silent with regard to the last portion of my post.
‘Shtikoh Kehodoah’December 19, 2010 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm #722447GabboimMember
The coffeeroom should put a “TV” mark under the screennames of posters with televisions, so others know where their non-Torah views on Jewish issues come from.December 19, 2010 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm #722448
Poster, unfortunately “having fun” in recent weeks turned in to hurting people. That is why what you said about “getting a feel of who we are talking to in other discussions” it didn’t sit right. Why do you need to know who has a TV to have a feel who they are in other discussions? Will that influence your opinion on how frum they are? What exactly WAS your point, if I am misunderstanding you.December 20, 2010 12:26 am at 12:26 am #722449deiyezoogerMember
noDecember 20, 2010 12:39 am at 12:39 am #722450ItcheSrulikMember
TMB: Almost. I’m averse to watching because I am simply not interested. If someone finds something they think is worth watching gey gezunteheit.December 20, 2010 1:45 am at 1:45 am #722451Be HappyParticipant
Something to think about. Received by email:
— Author Unknown
A few months before I was born, my Dad met a stranger who was new to our small town. From the beginning, Dad was fascinated with this enchanting newcomer and soon invited him to live with our family. The stranger was quickly accepted and was around to welcome me into the world a few months later.
As I grew up, I never questioned his place in my family. In my young mind, he had a special niche. My parents were complementary instructors: Mom taught me the word of God, and Dad taught me to obey it. But the stranger.. He was our storyteller. He would keep us spellbound for hours on end with adventures, mysteries and comedies.
If I wanted to know anything about politics, history or science, he always knew the answers about the past, understood the present and even seemed able to predict the future! He took my family to the first major league ball game. He made me laugh, and he made me cry. The stranger never stopped talking, but Dad didn’t seem to mind.
Sometimes, Mom would get up quietly while the rest of us were shushing each other to listen to what he had to say, and she would go to her room and read her books (I wonder now if she ever prayed for the stranger to leave.)
Dad ruled our household with certain moral convictions, but the stranger never felt obligated to honor them. Profanity, for example, was not allowed in our home… not from us, our friends or any visitors. Our longtime visitor, however, got away with four-letter words that burned my ears and made my dad squirm and my mother blush.
My Dad was a teetotaler who didn’t permit alcohol in the home, not even for cooking. But the stranger encouraged us to try it on a regular basis. He made cigarettes look cool, cigars manly and pipes distinguished. He talked freely (much too freely!) about sex. His comments were sometimes blatant, sometimes suggestive, and generally embarrassing.
I now know that my early concepts about relationships were influenced strongly by the stranger. Time after time, he opposed the values of my parents, yet he was seldom rebuked… and NEVER asked to leave.
More than fifty years have passed since the stranger moved in with our family. He has blended right in and is not nearly as fascinating as he was at first. Still, if you were to walk into my parent’s den today, you would still find him sitting over in his corner, waiting for someone to listen to him talk and watch him draw his pictures. His name?….
We just call him… “TV.”
He has a younger sister now. We call her “Computer.”December 20, 2010 1:49 am at 1:49 am #722452good.jewMember
Popa, do you have one?December 20, 2010 3:23 am at 3:23 am #722453WolfishMusingsParticipant
The coffeeroom should put a “TV” mark under the screennames of posters with televisions, so others know where their non-Torah views on Jewish issues come from.
Cool… let’s see what else
CS – For those that eat Cholov Stam
CSh – For those that wear colored shirts
MO – For those that are Modern Orthodox
IN – For those that have the internet (oh, wait…)
GP – For those that say “Good Shabbos” to people of the opposite sex.
PH – For those who waste time with hobbies such as photography instead of learning Torah every possible moment.
NS – For those who got married outside the shidduch system.
JS – For those who wear jeans and/or sneakers
NY – For those who don’t speak or understand Yiddish
WO – For those who work for a living and don’t learn full time.
NHC – For those women who don’t cover their hair while alone in the house and while sleeping.
HNHC – For the husbands of the above women.
NOH – For those who don’t have Olam Habah.
NC – For those who don’t adopt every single chumra that becomes fashionable.
The Wolf (TV, CS, CSh, IN, GP, PH, NS, JS, NY, WO, HNHC, NOH, NC)December 20, 2010 4:22 am at 4:22 am #722454
The coffeeroom should put a “TV” mark under the screennames of posters with televisions, so others know where their non-Torah views on Jewish issues come from. “
It is just too tempting to refrain from responding, but being a TV-owner, I have learned a little something about censorship, so I will press the “mute” button and restrain myself.December 20, 2010 4:58 am at 4:58 am #722456
I don’t see why this question is offensive.
If I ask: how many rooms do you have in your apt, is that wrong? It’s interesting to know and that’s it.
If you feel totally comfortable with it, then you should feel comfortable answering. Besides if the question is a breech in privacy. But here, it’s an ok question and shouldn’t offend anyone.
(And just as a side note, if someone asks me whether I have internet at home, I am embarrassed to say yes.)December 20, 2010 5:13 am at 5:13 am #722457williMember
I do not have a tv, but I don’t think this proves anything for anyone because nowadays you can access everything through the internet, so op I don’t know how much smarter you will become through this poll.December 20, 2010 5:25 am at 5:25 am #722458popa_bar_abbaParticipant
noDecember 20, 2010 5:53 am at 5:53 am #722459ronrsrMember
TV or not TV, that is the question?
Yes.December 20, 2010 6:25 am at 6:25 am #722460
Wolf- thanks for the laugh! Very creative!
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