July 22, 2018 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #1562741HaimyParticipant
Fine yidden are moving to Lakewood in droves from Brooklyn & beyond, mainly due to the more affordable housing market.
BEWARE: Be sure to find a school for your kids before joining our wonderful community. The schools in Lakewood a PACKED! ken”h. The local residents are having a hard time finding a school, k”v a newcomer. As a longtime Lakewood resident I had a very hard time getting my kids in due to the shortage of space. I can easily see someone feeling terrible after being rejected time & again even though it’s not usually personal. Please don’t even considering moving here without a guaranteed place in a local school.
“It never once occurred to us that finding a school for our kids could prove to be a challenge.
We couldn’t have been more wrong.”July 22, 2018 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #1562798zionflagParticipant
Most schools do not accept applications, or set up interviews when you are not a resident of Lakewood.July 22, 2018 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #1562795
אמתJuly 22, 2018 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #1562772
Does the school year begin with Lakewood children who have no school to go to and remain home?July 22, 2018 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #1562789👑RebYidd23Participant
If you’re moving to Lakewood, open a school.July 22, 2018 11:19 pm at 11:19 pm #1562809Takes2-2tangoParticipant
Dont move to lakewood period!
If you go to a shul which is jam packed to the gills, you will leave and find another shul or wait till they expand the shul.
Same thing with lakewood. Lakewood right now is beyond jam packed. Wait till they build a proper inforstructure or move else ware. Lakewood at the present time is is over loaded. Move to Cleveland,detroit, baltimore,passaic viginia etc.July 22, 2018 11:19 pm at 11:19 pm #1562807FreddyfishParticipant
Set up a blog with the exact amount of kids that need a school and then you’ll get an idea of how many kids need schools and then you can open one (or two…)July 23, 2018 1:42 am at 1:42 am #1562843
Here’s an idea……forget Lakewood. There are many other places in NJ with affordable housing and access to great Yeshivas.
Just to list a few. What is this obsession with Lakewood?July 23, 2018 1:43 am at 1:43 am #1562854DovidBTParticipant
I suppose starting a new school has its own challenges.July 23, 2018 2:37 am at 2:37 am #1562873
There’s no comparison to the wide and varied choices of great yeshivos in Lakewood, Brooklyn and Monsey to anywhere else other than Eretz Yisroel. Those three localities have choices that nowhere else in chutz offers.July 23, 2018 6:20 am at 6:20 am #1562916
Joseph, apparently, they have wide and varied choices from where to hear “no”…..July 23, 2018 10:46 am at 10:46 am #1563041HealthParticipant
Haimy -“As a longtime Lakewood resident I had a very hard time getting my kids in due to the shortage of space”
The situation in Lakewood is very bad! It has nothing to do with lack of space. There’s a lack of Ahavas Yisroel. And btw, I’m also a longtime resident here!July 23, 2018 10:46 am at 10:46 am #1563025
So are you (the op) saying that a newlywed shouldn’t move to a city period? What about someone that gets relocated due to his job, he should just quit?
The community has a responsibility to get its’ children in its schools that’s what happens when you become part of a communityJuly 23, 2018 10:46 am at 10:46 am #1562991yitzchokmParticipant
At least they exist.
How many frum schools are in-
One yeshiva each?
What will these stone-throwers say when they can’t get their kids into these schools either? How terribly unwelcome these communities are as well?July 23, 2018 10:46 am at 10:46 am #1562988TGIShabbosParticipant
Joseph, Apparently you’ve never heard of Chofetz Chaim in Queens. What an insulting statement you made.July 23, 2018 10:46 am at 10:46 am #1562981MammeleParticipant
I hear the same about Monsey. And most landlords won’t even rent to you there if you don’t have schools for your kids set up yet.
What many posters here don’t realize, is that some families really HAVE TO move for various reasons. The reasons can range from literally no place for their kids to sleep due to their growing family size, to having boys and girls share a room past Bar/Bas Mitzva age, to the house no longer safe to live in as the roof or something major is in a state of disrepair, to the Landlord needing their apartment for a close family member and wanting them out.
The options to move within Brooklyn are very often cost-prohibitive. Waiting it out can be impossible, especially when the time to move for those with relatively older kids is only during the summertime as not to disrupt their school year.
There are no easy answers.July 23, 2018 10:48 am at 10:48 am #1563060Menachem MelamedParticipant
I don’t claim to be in the “Know”, but perhaps HKB”H is trying to push Bnei Torah to the smaller communities. There are Jews hungering for Torah all across North America. Many people who raised families in the small communinities will tell you that they were able to raise children with great depth to their Yiddishkeit – perhaps more than children raised in the large centers of Yiddishkeit – provided that the small community had at least a core of Orthodoxy.July 23, 2018 11:34 am at 11:34 am #1563084takahmamashParticipant
Here’s an idea……forget Lakewood. There are many other places in the Jewish world with affordable housing and access to great Yeshivas.
Beit Shemesh/Ramat Beit Shemesh
Just to list a few. What is this obsession with Lakewood?July 23, 2018 11:35 am at 11:35 am #1563089
This is a major crisis that needs to be addressed. I do know alot of people are moving to Cleveland, which has a choice of different type of yeshivos. The price of homes are very low, and there is no tuition costs, because of govt. sponsored school choice. Sounds like a great package.July 23, 2018 11:36 am at 11:36 am #1563109
What good are choices, if they are not available to you.
The point made by the OP is not new. Ten years ago, brokers were telling people not to close on a house until they had a confirmed admission to school for their kids.July 23, 2018 11:36 am at 11:36 am #1563113
“when you become part of a community”
Lakewood is a “community”?!!?!??!?!?!!!??July 23, 2018 11:36 am at 11:36 am #1563114
TGI: Brooklyn and Monsey have a Chofetz Chaim Yeshiva as well, among many other choices of yeshivos. Nothing insulting about this.July 23, 2018 1:52 pm at 1:52 pm #1563169porParticipant
For those thinking of moving to Eretz Yisroel, make sure you have a viable chinuch option that doesn’t involve “Chareidi” schools that have been taken over by the anti-Torah Misrad HaChinuch which is dictating curriculum, teacher hiring, hashkofo, etc. They’re using all their governmental power to ensure that the coming generation grows up with as little yiras Shamaim as possible, Hashem Yishmereinu. A lot of French immigrants have been horrified to discover what’s happened to their children’s yiras Shamaim in the schools the immigration agencies assigned them to. Beware.July 23, 2018 1:52 pm at 1:52 pm #1563163
What type of nonsense is this, these are mostly modern orthodox communities.July 23, 2018 1:52 pm at 1:52 pm #1563135
Takah: What’s your obsession with Zionism?July 23, 2018 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #1563321MammeleParticipant
And really, Yerushalayim is affordable?July 23, 2018 8:18 pm at 8:18 pm #1563441
Yitz…..and let’s say there’s 1 each… and? If someone’s kids cant get into Lakewoods many many schools, there may as well be zero schools in Lakewood for them. And I’ve visited almost all the communities listed for at least 1 shabbos and spent time there too. I have found the populace to be welcoming and frielndly.
ROC…..well, not right on this. I found those communities to a diverse mix from MO to black hat to chassidish. You clearly haven’t been there in a long while.July 23, 2018 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #1563467chosidParticipant
many families who moved, the parents hired a rebbi and teaching the children from the block in a shul, it used to be like that in der heim, if everyone will do that, it will pressure the schools to cave in and accept all kids equal.July 24, 2018 12:28 am at 12:28 am #1563483jakobParticipant
Cleveland is the new original Lakewood
Cleveland today is what lakewood was approximately 22 years ago. People moved to lakewood to devote their lives to Torah bit sadly that has all changed-so a few people could pocket the money -to a town filled with the fanciest restaurant and ladies exquisite clothing stores etc that don’t belong in a town devoted and built for Torah by Rav Aaron Kotler ZTL
now that is what Cleveland is today. A beautiful small Torah community with telz yeshiva and free education to raise a Torah familyJuly 24, 2018 8:26 am at 8:26 am #1563529
Lakewood is a “community”?!!?!??!?!?!!!??
No Lakewood is a bunch of communities but whichever community one moves to (in or out of Lakewood) that community has a responsibilityJuly 24, 2018 9:32 am at 9:32 am #1563554takahmamashParticipant
Joseph: “Takah: What’s your obsession with Zionism?”
There’s a mitzvat aseh to live in E”Y. There is no mitzvah to live in Lakewood.July 24, 2018 10:34 am at 10:34 am #1563637
@ coffee Addict.
So, which “community” has a responsibility to the writer of the letter that is the cause for the current discussion?July 24, 2018 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm #1563737
Takah: If living in Lakewood will make someone better in Torah and Yiddishkeit than living in Petah Tikva, than it is a much greater mitzvah to live in Lakewood than in Israel.July 24, 2018 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm #1563762GAONParticipant
And why in the world is there an “if”? And how do you define “better”?July 24, 2018 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm #1563769
The community he is a part of, 🙄
He has to have a shul where he regularly davens in, he sent his kids to a fan somewhere in the neighborhood, who does he ask shaylos to locally
People don’t live in a vacuum (even though they might think they do)July 24, 2018 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm #1563802
“The community he is a part of, 🙄”
I see, so, he should go to the “community school”. Excellent.
“He has to have a shul where he regularly davens in, he sent his kids to a fan somewhere in the neighborhood, who does he ask shaylos to locally”
Unless his shul or his Rav run a school, I dont see where this is headed.
“People don’t live in a vacuum (even though they might think they do)”
The schools arent operating in a vaccuum either. Which takes us back to the letter writer.
Perhaps if you could send the letter writer a list of “community schools”, he can identify what community he belongs to and knock on their door.July 24, 2018 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #1563887
I’m not sure where you’re from disparaging “community schools” (I’m guessing Flatbush) however I think I’m misunderstood
Schools are run by people, and people usually have a rav and your rav might have pull when it comes to a certain school
A Frum community has a Frum school ( or 2 or 3)
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