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  • #1042739

    Patur Aval Assur
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    Randomex:

    My first point was that if you have killed insects you can’t be thankful for not killing them. Your response is that if animals and insects are of equal importance then why should you be thankful for not killing animals. I don’t see how that follows.

    Then I proposed an alternate theory, namely that writersoul was in fact thankful for not killing insects but the moderator removed that part. Now which part of that is not plausible? That the moderator thinks that killing animals is worse than killing insects? Clearly not seeing as no one (besides me) was hesitant to think that writersoul thought that. Ella mai the implausibility is that the moderator would edit out something that doesn’t fit with his/her worldview. Except that the moderators do do that (see http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/ever-seen-a-forest-animal-die-of-old-age#post-537060 ).

    You offered another theory which is indeed a possibility. But Chuvim(Joseph) has no right to ask a question based on an assumed theory. You then claim that a seminary girl in an online forum does not write with this level of a precision of language. Even if were to agree with that (which I certainly don’t), it is irrelevant here because neither of my theories presumed any real precision of language.

    You asked another kashya on Chuvim(Joseph) but when I characterized it as such, you disagreed. I’m not sure why.

    You then point out that writersoul eventually clarified her intent. However, I had already noted this and wrote that I like my answer better.

    As for your claim that you are the Mayor, first of all, where was I when you were elected? and second of all, why would that title make you a better arbiter of the plausibility of a theory?

    And finally, in regards to the last point I think you misunderstood my answer. I wasn’t saying that human death and animal death are the same (which is what the medrash said). I was quoting the Iyun Yaakov who says that they are different in that humans can only die due to aveiros whereas animals don’t do aveiros in which case anytime an animal dies it is due to old age i.e. its predestined age of death has been fulfilled as opposed to humans who often die before their preordained age of death. Therefore the original question was meaningless because if you’ve seen a forest animal die then you’ve seen it die of old age.

    #1042740

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    “As for the issue… LOL! Actually, it’s just us.

    After our first clash, someone made a thread just for us to post in instead of taking up space in the original thread… not that we used it.”

    Well you never showed up. Despite your statement that you plan to do so: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/name-that-tune/page/9#post-537496

    #1042741

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    Your move, Randomex.

    #1042742

    Randomex
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    Yes, yes, I know… That last one took two weeks – give me some time! (Just kidding.)

    #1042745

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    Yes, yes, I know… That last one took two weeks – give me some time!

    According to the time stamp your two weeks are up.

    #1042746

    Randomex
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    Fortunately, that time-stamp won’t be changing for a week. At least you seem to be raring to go again… 🙂

    By the way, Rabbi Dr. Patur, I must thank you – under your expert tutelage, I have become adept at answering original questions:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/should-jews-give-candy-this-coming-monday-night/page/2?replies=90#post-544832

    (That post might not be approved, though…)

    #1042747

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    The post was not approved. So do I get to find out how I helped you?

    And I see you finally took to heart http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/good-jokes/page/33#post-536875

    Although I’m not sure why Davar Katan assumed that I was a Mr. a Dr. a Rabbi and a Sir. Interestingly though, the fifth link in that post is the same as the fourth link. It should be http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/soft-matza-this-pesach#post-518792

    I also don’t know why Davar Katan assumed that I was a tiyuvta.

    #1042748

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    And the time stamp might have already been saying two weeks for six days, in which case you are indeed running out of time.

    #1042749

    Randomex
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    I see that you in fact did not follow the asterisks in this post:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/good-jokes/page/34#post-542677

    (I posted the intended final link there.)

    As for my post in the candy thread, here it is, but first, the thread’s title (and thus its “original question”):

    “Should Jews Give Candy This Coming Monday Night?”

    Randomex: Yes. In fact, I think this should be bumped every week, to the delight of all children living near CR readers (and their dentists.)

    I made use of the technique earlier as well, as I noted here:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/your-coffee-room-report-card-comments/page/3#post-541623

    #1042750

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    Well you said I didn’t have to follow the asterisks. It happens to be that I did follow them; I just hadn’t realized that you were correcting my mistake.

    #1042751

    Randomex
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    PAA:

    I wasn’t saying that it was wrong of you not to follow

    the asterisks, and I assume what you mean is that you

    didn’t notice that that information was there.

    #1042752

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    What I mean is that at the time that I followed the asterisks, I was not yet aware that I had provided the wrong link so when you said “The final link was meant to be this, not the same as the fourth” I had no idea what you were referring to. In retrospect it does seem a bit foolish of me not to have realized that.

    #1042753

    Randomex
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    #1042754

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    (Randomex, you need not follow the asterisk. Actually, scratch that; you’re probably the only one reading this so if you don’t follow it no one will.)

    Apparently the students are outshining the teacher*, as I at least point out when I am addressing the original question.

    A talmid outshining his rebbe

    Disclaimer: I linked the thread solely because of the usage of the phrase “talmid outshining his rebbe”. No comment on the content of that thread.

    #1042755

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    Now to really answer the original question:

    Tzlach on Berachos 17a:

    ??? ??? ???? ??????

    ????? ??? ????? ????? [emphasis added]

    ??? ????? ????’ ?? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ?”? ??? ??? ?????? ???????? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?????? [emphasis added]

    ??? ????? ??????? ????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ?????? ???? ?? ?????? ??????

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