Going OTD in the IDF

> No weapons of mass destruction to be found. Just civilians who had their lives cruelly turned upside down and forever changed

some people just play games with facts, not caring about real people. Maybe ask Iraqis how many votes would Saddam get in recent elections.
If you look at various democracy indices – they were 0.1 (out of 1) and below under Saddam and are 0.2 to 0.4 now, a pretty good number for the region they are in.

Flaming Achmed (the troll), at first, I wanted to answer your claims point by point, but then I thought that you yourself should know why your claims are false, outrageous slander. So, I decided not to waste my time on a detailed response.
Do teshuva before you end up flaming in Gehennom.

The name calling doesnt stop. Calling me “Achmed” (which is totally arab-phobic and offensive as an arab jew)

Also assuming my level of practice of the religion based on the words i’m using as critique. Words that describe horrific behavior of individuals and systems. Instead of focusing on how to make this olam better, your focus is discrediting me, and any other criticizer of this anti-Torah agenda.

Can’t i just be a yid who is disheartened by what she is seeing. Devastated by our inaction here.

Excusing the murder of these kids as “Human shields” seriously? With this example? Even the genocidal IDF didn’t use that excuse here, they just said they crossed an invisible line they weren’t supposed to (nor was it clearly marked and they were 8 and 10 years old).

Not all mainstream media has it wrong. Yes lots of it is problematic, but we can’t just write off whatever suits our narrative better. You can excuse the “other side” of ding this too. I get it. But honestly what are the agendas here? what does the mainstream media have against Israel? why would they want to criticize it, if it was truly doing such good. You know most Palestinian supporters say the media favors Israel. I think stats back that up. According to the dataset, New York Times uses “Israel” in headlines over “Palestine” at a ratio of 187 to 1.

I’d hope as “religious” jews (or whatever it is you call yourselves) you wouldn’t support genocidal policies, that defend a made up US satellite state, that puts Jewish lives at risk daily and brings a bad name onto all of klal yisrael.

Honestly tho this is getting tiring. I feel like I’m working up against a brick wall here. I guess maybe you can help me understand your position better.

Do you hold that this is helping us prepare for the coming of mashiach? is it bringing us closer?
Or do you just hold that Jewish people are already there so we need to defend them?
Or do you think that Hamas is genuinely dangerous and needs to be wiped out? If so, should it be a Jewish imperative to wipe out every terrorist threat around the world? Like with guns? Or just the threats that seem target us? When does this stop?
And how do you see the civilians there in Gaza? Are they just “future hamas?” Do they have any humanity. Are we punishing them for their future sins? Is this okay?

Also in all this, how do you feel about Jews in the US in general. Are we obliged to move right now? What would be the onus of that motivation? Do you feel its because its dangerous here? are we truly safer there? Does being there not invite more harm? How do we balance this?

Also how do you feel about the religious stance (or lack of one) of the Zionist government.

Genuinely curious.