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December 11, 2014 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #1050315writersoulParticipant
PBA: So what are the defining differences between this “paradigm of MO-machmirness” and a yeshivish person? Because you’re making it sound like yeshivish is a default position and everything else is just a variation on the theme. I don’t think that’s so true- yeshivish people are also more likely to have a different attitude, for example, toward kollel, toward secular studies, college, women’s roles, etc. It’s not just exterior observances and movies and singing Hatikvah.
I’ve seen “MO Machmir” families and yeshivish families where the two families were indistinguishable, but they wouldn’t be able to have a conversation where they would be on the same side on an issue. I think that MO is (or should be!) more of a state of mind, not a “what do I keep” cheshbon.December 11, 2014 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #1050316flatbusherParticipant
I’ve been following this thread and notice on one of the frum dating cites these terms appear often. (I am looking on behalf of my daughter). Quite honestly, whether its modern yeshivish or MO machmir, it’s almost like the difference between partly sunny and partly cloudy. I prefer the distinction between yeshivish and balabatish, and if I had to make a distinction, the former includes guys who must always dress in white shirts and wear a black hat when going out, even not during tefilah, while balabatish are frum but more worldly as they are aware of what goes on in the outside world but because of frum concerns, avoid them.December 12, 2014 4:46 am at 4:46 am #1050317
I have some memory of a thread from way back in which Popa explained that the difference between modern and yeshivish is that a yeshivish guy reads Kovetz Shiurim in shul on Shabbos whereas a modern guy reads Tradition (or something to that effect). But I can’t find the thread. Anyone know what I’m referring to?December 12, 2014 6:43 am at 6:43 am #1050318☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Hard to find, because he was using his other screen name, but here it is:
And stam, for the thread:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/what-does-modern-yeshivish-mean/page/2#post-168322December 12, 2014 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm #1050319
I wasn’t searching via Popa, so I don’t know why I couldn’t find it.
Anyway, thanks for finding it.
(This is an example of something you should take personally. The word “thanks” is a good clue.)December 14, 2014 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #1050320
idk why my posts arent going up
PAA- pwetty funny but a bit obvious. nonetheless didnt know u had it in u.December 14, 2014 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #1050321
I think you meant to post that in http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/googling-your-date
Anyway, I’m still not entirely sure what you mean. (Forgive me for being a bit slow.)December 15, 2014 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #1050322
oops. actually meant to post that one here (thanks for finding it)December 15, 2014 9:01 pm at 9:01 pm #1050323
was talking about this
Do you think that most people on the same end of the spectrum can have a good marriage?December 16, 2014 3:46 am at 3:46 am #1050324
I apologize, but every time you clarify, I just get more confused. What did you say that was in response to my question?December 22, 2014 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #1050325
ya i have a problem. forgetit.December 29, 2014 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm #1050326☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲Participant
Is that screen name really Popa? >It does seem plausible…<
Should its posts also not be trusted/taken at face value?December 29, 2014 6:32 pm at 6:32 pm #1050327VogueMember
I didn’t have time to read this whole thread, but I can say for myself that I have spoken over the past year to at least fifty shadchanim, I have been given 25 different guys for suggestions and ultimately, I realized that none of their hashkafos, which ranged from modern orthodox to lubavitch suited my hashkafos. So I ended up looking into some stuff and I recently figured it out.
Everyone has their own religious struggles/ areas of weakness no matter who you choose to affiliate with. I am still very frum but I have found that for many people farther to the right because I come across when I speak as someone with a significant amount of secular education (as in, even though I am very frum- I could never do a TTI degree because such a degree would not satisfy my intellectual craving) so people would often suggest guys more modern.
*If you are struggling to get hashkafic clarity but have an idea that you think may interest you, perhaps trying to find someone who does not know you well enough to have a personal bias in their direction may be an appropriate route to go.*December 2, 2019 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #1806840ThisIsThePointParticipant
Hi everyone! I have just been reading through this in 2019 and I am so confused. Was this a discussion of who is better than the others or simply trying to define a label? Just Curious.December 2, 2019 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #1806844GadolhadorahParticipant
Whats with this post-Thanksgiving bumping of 5 and 10 YO threads? Too many yidden with too much time on their hands after a goiyeshe yom tov holiday where they actually could use their computer?
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