#modern Yeshivish

PBA: So what are the defining differences between this “paradigm of MO-machmirness” and a yeshivish person? Because you’re making it sound like yeshivish is a default position and everything else is just a variation on the theme. I don’t think that’s so true- yeshivish people are also more likely to have a different attitude, for example, toward kollel, toward secular studies, college, women’s roles, etc. It’s not just exterior observances and movies and singing Hatikvah.

I’ve seen “MO Machmir” families and yeshivish families where the two families were indistinguishable, but they wouldn’t be able to have a conversation where they would be on the same side on an issue. I think that MO is (or should be!) more of a state of mind, not a “what do I keep” cheshbon.

I have some memory of a thread from way back in which Popa explained that the difference between modern and yeshivish is that a yeshivish guy reads Kovetz Shiurim in shul on Shabbos whereas a modern guy reads Tradition (or something to that effect). But I can’t find the thread. Anyone know what I’m referring to?

I wasn’t searching via Popa, so I don’t know why I couldn’t find it.

Anyway, thanks for finding it.

(This is an example of something you should take personally. The word “thanks” is a good clue.)

oyyoyyoy:

I think you meant to post that in http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/googling-your-date

Anyway, I’m still not entirely sure what you mean. (Forgive me for being a bit slow.)

was talking about this

oyyoyyoy:

Do you think that most people on the same end of the spectrum can have a good marriage?

ya i have a problem. forgetit.

I didn’t have time to read this whole thread, but I can say for myself that I have spoken over the past year to at least fifty shadchanim, I have been given 25 different guys for suggestions and ultimately, I realized that none of their hashkafos, which ranged from modern orthodox to lubavitch suited my hashkafos. So I ended up looking into some stuff and I recently figured it out.

Everyone has their own religious struggles/ areas of weakness no matter who you choose to affiliate with. I am still very frum but I have found that for many people farther to the right because I come across when I speak as someone with a significant amount of secular education (as in, even though I am very frum- I could never do a TTI degree because such a degree would not satisfy my intellectual craving) so people would often suggest guys more modern.

*If you are struggling to get hashkafic clarity but have an idea that you think may interest you, perhaps trying to find someone who does not know you well enough to have a personal bias in their direction may be an appropriate route to go.*

Whats with this post-Thanksgiving bumping of 5 and 10 YO threads? Too many yidden with too much time on their hands after a goiyeshe yom tov holiday where they actually could use their computer?