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I do think that having a relationship with God is more important than the way I eat though… Almost as if the main thing is to love him, the serving him will roll as a result.
You are certainly correct in saying that developing a relationship with HKB”H is important and perhaps commendable – but it isn’t the ikker of yiddishkeit. There are different levels of Avoidas Hashem: Yirah, Ahavah and Deveikus. Somebody on the madreigah of Yirah isn’t missing the point; he just hasn’t yet hit the higher level of Ahavah or Dveikus.
Your job on this world is to fulfill the Rotzoin Hashem, and the Rotzoin Hashem is to learn Torah and be mekayem the Mitzvos. “Developing a connection” is not a mitzvah in itself. It probably comes as a ???? ???? of Ahavas Hashem, but it isn’t the most important thing in Yiddishkeit.
But it goes further than that as well – you are saying that Dikduk Hamitzvos comes as something secondary to “developing a connection with Hashem”: What would you say if somebody kept Shabbos on Tuesday but got all the hisoirerus and felt close to Hashem? Not keeping Shabbos keHilchoso is almost as bad as keeping Shabbos on Tuesday.
Yekke2:
Or to put it another way, your point is that in Yiddishkeit there is no ‘spirit of the law’, only the letter of the law. And that the spirit of the law only is only relevant when it is assisting one in fulfilling the letter of the law.
But is not the spirit of the law included in the letter of the law?
NeutiquamErro:
That wasn’t the essence of my point. There may well be a “spirit of the law”, but that cannot take precedence over the law itself. It may be a part of the law, it may not. But keeping the Torah is the job of every Jew, and if your ideals don’t include that on top of the list, you may be a Yisroel Mumar…
about the whole previous conversation on who relied on who’s psak, I don’t think anyone should be relying on anything anyone says here! no one knows where anyone is coming form and it would be totally wrong to rely on any psak, about movies or otherwise!
Right, so if someone here says not to eat in McDonald’s, nobody should rely on that.
daasyochid, you are quite the cynical one.
I thank you kindly.
link to the post… we don’t have time to go searching
Shkoyach:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/teivah-for-movies/page/5#post-560980
Post reads:
“And Rav Moshe’s son-in-law, Rav Tendler, says that Rav Moshe would take back his opinion today in light of more recent studies and the fact that less people smoke today.” add in: “and would now prohibit smoking altogether”
Please write edited to allow people to know it was
One may ask that if I say that paskening from the CR is a mistake, why did I ask DY a shalya on this thread and seemingly rely on him. Indeed, I believe I was mistaken in doing so.
(This is not against DY who may be a big Talmid Chochom, it is just the idea that relying on the CR is a mistake)
Where did you ask me a shayla and seemingly rely on me?
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You didn’t seemingly rely on me.
DY- I know we did get off on a tangent at that point but still I did rely on you.
Regarding the source that I thought disagrees with everything I said here regarding halacha it is in Otzar Haposkim on Even Haezer (EH 21, part that discusses temunas vtzoras isha.)
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