January 5, 2009 5:06 am at 5:06 am #636186havesomeseichelMember
wow- pretty smart and witty for 13… and people say that the school systems dont work…
zoos- in florida there is something called butterfly world. I do not know where it is, but it is amazing- you can walk in a building where the butterflies can roam freely and even land on you…January 6, 2009 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #636187
Who’s “jinglebells”?January 6, 2009 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm #636188
Charles R. Darwin: he joined a few days ago & went MI recently!!!!January 20, 2009 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #636190
Seriously, people, please help…January 20, 2009 9:20 pm at 9:20 pm #636192
Sadly most of the zoos I have been to in the US are outdoor non-enclosed zoos which feature two-legged vilde chayes. There is an enclosed zoo in DC called Congress which has 400 and something 2 legged behemas when it is in session.
Or as we used to say before Giuliani – the most dangerous vilde chayes in the Bronx Zoo have 2 legs.January 21, 2009 2:25 am at 2:25 am #636193
2 legs? Are you referring to the birds exhibit?January 21, 2009 2:52 am at 2:52 am #636195
Charles R. Darwin: change your name & then we’ll help ya pal!!!January 21, 2009 3:35 am at 3:35 am #636196CuriousMember
Must be the flamingos, squeakJanuary 21, 2009 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #636197
I know! The pink ones especially! They are soooo scary.January 21, 2009 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #636198
Itzik- got a kick outta that oneJanuary 22, 2009 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #636199
I have a different name – Give Me a Break. And I chose that name for the very reason that you showed – what does it matter if I have different hashkafos than you?
Seriously, midwinter coming up very soon – please help!January 22, 2009 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #636200
charles- is this the only thread you post under this screen name? dafka to get at us?January 22, 2009 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm #636201beaconParticipant
I’m confused, charles d. What exactly are you asking?January 23, 2009 2:54 am at 2:54 am #636202
charles R. darwin: you actually call the ideas of darwin a different hashkafa??? come on man!!!January 25, 2009 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #636203
Yes, because I lost the password to my other screen name.
I’m asking for suggestions about zoological parks and aquaria to know where to go during VaK.
Yes.January 25, 2009 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #636204
Charles R. Darwin: it’s 100% apikorsus!!!! get a life man!!!!January 25, 2009 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #636205
… and then they say that I’M not frum. at least i believe in GOD!January 25, 2009 7:33 pm at 7:33 pm #636206
Who said I don’t believe in God? It’s possible to believe in evolution and God, y’know!January 25, 2009 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #636207
yeah cuz that’s so possible. you warp the concept of God and limit His abilities and then you wanna be considered a believer? you’re messed up.January 25, 2009 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #636208
There have certainly been some attempts to reconcile the Darwin theory of evolution with Torah. There are also misunderstandings of the Darwin theory that make it seem as if human beings descended from the apes whereas I believe that the theory only posits that man and the apes have a common ancestor (some have mistakenly identified a species called Homo inferioris alsharptonis as this ancestor but this is not possible as said species has only a physical resemblance to a human being )!
However, the theory is full of holes. Darwin himself said he could not explain the human eye – which is really a huge flaw considering how important the eye is to any being and to the ecosystem.
It also tries to take out the G-dliness of creation chas vesholom. Yes, it is very convenient to believe that the tiger and the zebra have the fur patterns that they do because both species need to hide in the grass, one to hunt and the other to avoid being hunted.
Yet, those patterns are not all that effective – the creatures would be far better served with far duller patterns. And no matter what, the zebra ends up becoming prey, and the tiger does not have to hide in the grass when it wants to knock off a water buffalo or an unsuspecting villager.
Those 2 creatures, and others like them, look the way they do because Hashem shows His power of creating beauty through nature. (Never mind flowers and other fauna, the patterns of which show no particular “evolutionary” need).
The only possible value of the theory of evolution is that until Moshiach reveals the secrets of creation, some scientists apparently look to so-called evolutionary mechanisms of cells to devise antibiotics and anti-malignancy drugs. Yet, again, the first antibiotic was revealed in what non-believers call a fortunate accident and what we should see as hashgocho protis.
And social evolutionism is plain nonsense which flies in the face of Torah and in its worst form leads to systems such as Naziism.January 25, 2009 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #636210
Fine. If you want, I’ll say this:
“I’m a heretic.”
Happy? I don’t know why you insist that it must be true, but if you say so…
Anyways, mid-winter VaK starts Friday, so please find me a place to go!January 25, 2009 8:05 pm at 8:05 pm #636211
ames – you don’t wanna accept loshon hora? be my guest. but don’t be stupid.
darwin – do i sound like the type to label people? my question is, how can you be frum if you don’t believe that God is IT? because if He’s limited in any way that the whole torah is garbage. which would mean you don’t have to keep anything.
maybe i’m backwards but at least i have the base. you have the cream without the cake.January 25, 2009 8:08 pm at 8:08 pm #636212
Speaking of being not frum, just wondering who it is here that’s not frum.
~a~January 25, 2009 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #636213
oh anonymisss but he davens and keeps shabbos and wears a white shirt. i don’t so i must be the not frum one, right?
my point exactly.January 25, 2009 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #636215
moish, I’m really not sure. Doing those things don’t necessarily make one frum, although they may appear to be frum.
~a~January 25, 2009 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #636216
yeh tell me about it. just from experience: the guys who still wear white shirts are the WORST. (i mean from the guys hanging out)January 25, 2009 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #636218YW Moderator-72Participant
either the conversation returns to Zoos or we will be closing another thread today.
Thank you.January 25, 2009 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm #636219
yay the zoo is funnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!(wheen i was like 7yrs old!!!)January 25, 2009 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #636222
I hate zoos:(
~a~January 25, 2009 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #636223
you really like animals? go horseback riding.January 25, 2009 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #636224
Asd and anonymiss – pls see my earlier post regarding what Rav Ovadia Yosef shlit”a (may he continue to enjoy good health ad bias hagoel) has to say about visiting the zoo. When I go I don’t spend much time though – I head quickly for the bear, tiger and lion exhibits and then to find a weird looking primate for meshane habriyois. I spent perhaps 30 minutes at the Bronx Zoo and most of that was walking.January 25, 2009 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #636227
Yes, yes… but could you guys please suggest places for me to enjoy?January 25, 2009 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #636228beaconParticipant
Which area of the world, charles ?January 25, 2009 9:37 pm at 9:37 pm #636229CuriousMember
CRD – I think google will be a better option for your zoo search than YWN.January 25, 2009 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #636230
hey Darwin, the mods might not want this here so we may need to take it to another thread, but you never answered my question. you planning on it or do you like to cop out?January 25, 2009 9:59 pm at 9:59 pm #636231
Charles R. Darwin: bronx zoo, staten island zoo, ny aquerium………any help to ya??January 25, 2009 11:19 pm at 11:19 pm #636232
Darwin, you asked us to suggest places you would enjoy? I can think of many. All of them are under bridges. Because that is where you will find…
Trolls.January 26, 2009 7:27 am at 7:27 am #636233syriansephardiMember
Philadelphia zoo is a good one….even though don’t like zoos but yeah!
I remember the jerusalem zoo (going back yrs) had the elephants walking aroung!!! So cool!January 26, 2009 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #636234
SyrianSephardi, did the elephants try to take everyone’s wallets and handbags and then empty the money out? If so that wasn’t the zoo, that was Knesset and those weren’t elephants, those were politicians!January 26, 2009 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #636235kiruvwifeMember
some really nice zoos on the west coast….just don’t get too close to the tigers.January 27, 2009 1:57 am at 1:57 am #636236syriansephardiMember
Itzik: LOL, nope 🙂 REAL elaphants, made my brother cry haha
Ames: haha that’s really funny! We went this past pesach for my 2 year old brother but after a while it gets boring, its so long!!January 27, 2009 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #636237
kiruvwife, I too, think that the Japanese guy got off easy.February 1, 2009 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #636238
See the first post.
Seriously, a little help here?February 1, 2009 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #636239
Charles R. Darwin: ahhhhhh your back!!!!!!February 2, 2009 5:02 am at 5:02 am #636240
ames, be niceFebruary 3, 2009 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #636241
moish- why in heaven’s name should ames be nice to charles retarded darwin??
are you nice to the guerilla stalking you in an alleyway?
The Torah states: those that are nice to evil people will become evil
Asdf, squeak, ames- we need to form an anti-darwin coalitionFebruary 4, 2009 1:53 am at 1:53 am #636243
areivimzehlazeh: ok i’m so in!!!February 4, 2009 3:46 am at 3:46 am #636244
areivim, charles isn’t evil, he’s just dumb. there’s nothing wrong with being nice to the poor guy.February 4, 2009 5:43 am at 5:43 am #636245
moish01: your right moish!!!! i’ll be nice to the poor guy!!!!February 4, 2009 11:54 am at 11:54 am #636246amichaiParticipant
charlie, did you get your answer yet on the best zoos? cause this thread has been going for a month already. or should i say kol hakovod that you didn’t give up??
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