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Joseph,
Correct, charedim have no right to be critical of those who don’t know anything about Torah while they literally spill their blood to defend those who learn. The secular have every right to be disgusted when they then see them taking an entire month off. The superior attitude of you and your vile NK heroes is why they consider charedim to be parasites.
jackk,
Nearly two-thirds of the country believes that Brandon, the useless turd that you and your woke anti-Semite besties AOC, Ilhan, Rashida, Ayanna and Jamaal love so much, has taken this country in the wrong direction.
YOU CAN SCREAM YOUR POSTS IN CAPS but it doesn’t change reality.
Joseph,
According to you, the secular Israeli’s who are fighting, bleeding and dying to defend Jews against bloodthirsty terrorists have no right to be critical of the charedim who are not doing so. They should somehow realize that their efforts are really accomplishing nothing and only the charedim’s learning is worth anything, despite their taking this entire month off. Efforts to raise consciousness about the hostages, such as posting signs and writing letters should be mocked. In addition, the state of Israel is a bastard and there have never been any miracles in the wars since 1948 since according to the Satmar Rebbe, zt”l, a da’as yachid, it’s all the work of the Statan.
Your twisted logic, unfortunately shared by so many of your myopic ilk, highlights why the charedim are reviled as parasites by so many in Israel. You must be very proud.
jackk,
According to the CDC, your woke, bloodthirsty hero Brandon is responsible for the deaths of 721,000 Americans on his watch. You must be so proud!
edited- can you have a disagreement without giving people nasty nicknames please
You most certainly are two-faced, pretending to care about how a specific person will treat Jews yet you defend one of the three biggest anti-Semites of the past century. Just like your pig friend George Soros or are you going to defend him also?
Reb Eliezer,
You’re the two-faced one, staunch defender of the arch anti-Semite FDR.
edited. Hope you got it out of your system.
Eliezer,
FDR was a lifelong, arch anti-Semite directly responsible for the murder of six million Jews and you whitewash him by blaming Cordell Hull, whose father-in-law was Jewish? What’s wrong with you?
edited. And stop trying every wording option to get it through. It won’t.
Eliezer,
The Jerusalem Post has articles on a daily basis writing about Brandon’s unwavering support of Israel’s enemies which says to the Jews, you don’t belong in Israel or the U.S. Just like your hero FDR who viscerally hated Jews and enabled the slaughter of six million.
Joseph,
A Jew has the potential to rise above angels or to sink below animals, it all depends on the choices being made. If someone constantly behaves in an arrogant and superior manner that causes chilul Hashem in the eyes of others, it’s would have been better for them not to exist.
Joseph,
“Allow me to address the so-called “trolling” you refer to. Sometimes I’ll utilize humor, witticisms, irony, deadpan, satire or absurdism to creatively highlight a point.”
You obviously think very highly of yourself but your fan club has a grand total membership of one. You’re not funny, smart, or clever and lack basic common sense but you certainly are absurd.
Better stick to your pretend day jobs as a nuclear physicist. and semiconductor engineer.
Aveira,
In a letter written while traveling, the Vilna Gaon directed various members of his family to strengthen themselves in specific areas relevant to them individually. When his mother wondered why she wasn’t mentioned, the Gaon replied that her high level of tznius made such directives unnecessary. The letter did not state that “tznius does for a woman what Torah does for a man”, nor did he make this statement in any of his Halachic writings.
Aveira,
“Gadol, it’s in a letter the Gaon wrote to his daughter”.
So it’s not brought down as Halacha in any of his writings. Please share the precise quote from the letter.
Aveira,
“Gadol, it’s in a letter the Gaon wrote to his daughter”.
So it’s not brought down as Halacha in any of his writings. Please share the precise quote from the letter.
Aveira,
Please share precisely where and in what context the “Gaon famously wrote that tznius is for women what Torah is for men”.
Eliezer,
Some knowledge.
Democrats such as your hero, FDR, may he burn for all eternity, have the blood of six million Jews on their hands. He had large majorities in Congress for most of his terms in office and could have allowed significant numbers into this country. Instead, he wouldn’t even meet with the hundreds of Rabbis, led by Harav Silver, zt”l, who gathered in D.C. to respectfully beseech his assistance on October 6, 1943.
FDR was a virulent anti-Semite who despised Jews, just like every ardent Democrat.
CT,
“R President Nixon was a known Anti-Semite and of little help with YK War”
That “Anti-Semite” declared during a meeting on October 9, 1973, “The Israelis must not be allowed to lose” and authorized the military airlift of 567 resupply flights which literally saved Israel. The Arabs blamed him for doing so and quickly retaliated with the oil embargo against the United States. Did those minor historical details somehow drop out of your memory?
I’m so shocked and disappointed in you!
CS,
“I’m sorry this bothers you, but meshichism can never be shut down”
It doesn’t bother me a bit, just understand that this nutty obsession is why so many people run away from chabad like it’s a virus.
CS,
“…balance the imbalance that “mainstream” lubavitch has by allowing the hush hush mentality, which is definitely not where we should be at today”
I have no idea what your word-salad means but regardless, this nutty mashichist obsession is most certainly widespread and destroys much of the good done by chabad. It’s only getting worse as the decades pass so until the Rabbinic leadership puts a full halt to it, all the justifications and arguments in the world won’t make it any more palatable.
CS,
So while you admit that most of chabad believes the Rebbe, zt”l, niftar three decades ago, is mashiach and that they declare this by plastering “yechi” over everything from yarmulkes to billboards, it’s not an obsession. Nothing to see here, let’s all just move on?
Sorry, nobody’s buying. It’s a dangerous obsession and significantly detracts from much of the good chabad does.
Nisht,
Woke fascists like jackkk want to silence and cancel anyone who disagrees with their ultra-radical ideologies.
His posting that you should “go somewhere else” tells you he’s a weak snowflake who can’t bear to read anything that counters his vapid opinions and that you’re getting under his thin skin. Keep posting and don’t be intimidated!
CS,
Quoting sichos, stories and chabad apocrypha ad-infinitum won’t change anyone’s mind, especially with your “we’re better than everyone else” attitude.
The rest of Jewry never accepted the Rebbe, zt”l as nasi hador or mashiach and certainly doesn’t now, three decades after his passing.
You’re wasting untold hours of your life attempting to do so.
Aveira,
If Rishonim hold that it’s acceptable for a husband to beat his wife, how dare you write “it’s not only not effective but grossly harmful in our time”? That’s every bit as heretical as saying that Chazal didn’t know how to build cars or nuclear weapons!
Aveira,
The Rambam is in Hilchos Ishus 21:10; you’re free to verify this with any kollel man or Orthodox Rav. Since “it’s not wrong in principle”, how often do you beat your wife?
Joseph,
Yeah, you keep saying that; thou doth protest too much, methinks. The Rambam also writes that a husband may discipline his wife, even physically. How often do you beat your wives?
CS,
After weeks of threads back and forth, it’s obvious that minds aren’t going to be changed, no matter how long this waste of time goes on.
The rest of Orthodox Jewry doesn’t for the most part hate chabad but views its unshakable belief that the Rebbe., zt”l is still mashiach, as mass delusion at best and outright heresy at worst. These views are not going to change no matter how many sichos are quoted and will only deteriorate as the decades pass.
Aveira,
“chazal say idleness leads to a bigger lack of tznius! Not to mention insanity.”
You seem to have a great deal of time on your hands, which might explain a few things.
How often do you let your wife out of the house?
sechel83,
“answer to all your questions on chabad: sing a nigun from the rebbe!”
Oh wow, now I believe that the Rebbe, zt”l, who was niftar 30 years ago, is definitely mashiach!
Not.
Such lunacy is why Klal Yisrael considers chabad to be a divergent religion.
CS,
“The Satan got directly involved by the chet etz hadaas, and by Matan Torah.”
So the rest of us are essentially worshiping a golden calf since we don’t accept the Rebbe, zt”l, who was niftar 30 years ago, as mashiach?
How fitting, since Klal Yisrael views those who believe so to be idol worshipers.
Also, what is the kabalistic significance that 770 was allegedly an illegal abortion clinic before being purchased by chabad?
CS,
Please answer yes or no: do you believe that the Rebbe, zt”l, who was niftar almost 30 years ago, is mashiach?
Oy, enough already…
CS,
So you believe that the Rebbe, zt”l, who was niftar almost 30 years ago, is mashiach?
CS,
“Just a disclaimer, I have a reliable source to say that the Rebbes main aim was not to convince the world that he’s Moshiach, at that point, but just to let the c he chassidim know.”
You actually have a source that the Rebbe, zt”l informed the chassidim that he was mashiach? If so, how well did that work out for them? Do you think he still is or are you going to duck the question?
Please provide that source because from everything I heard, he couldn’t tolerate it when they said he was.
Dorah,
“If you follow a Litvish hashkafah or even a Chassid from a different Chassidus, you don’t need to run to the Ohel to beg mechilah if you don’t agree with certain Chabad practices.”
If one disagrees with certain viewpoints of Gedolim, it’s fine to respectfully say “my Rabbeim held otherwise” or “that’s not my mesorah”. For a little pisher to write that they “were mistaken in their novel ideologies”, that’s unmitigated gall and obligates a visit to kevarim.
Aveira,
How dare you write they “were mistaken in their novel ideologies”! Perhaps you can somewhat accurately parrot what you heard from your rebbe but until you know even a fraction of what they knew, “mistaken” is a highly inappropriate and very dangerous word to use.
You may want to think about visiting their kevarim and in the meantime, warn others to keep away from you during lightning storms.
Joseph,
Are those those all complaints from one of your wives or one from each of your wives?
Joseph,
So which Rav gave you permission to ignore Pas Bamelech Tochal and supposedly become both a semiconductor engineer and a nuclear physicist?
jack,
Hamas doesn’t need to call themselves “WOKE” when they have useful WOKE idiots like Claudine and Sally, as well as the quislings who defend them.
Are you going to now protest today’s announcement by StopAntisemitism that your woke girlfriend Rashida Tlaib was awarded “Antisemite of the Year”?
Joseph,
It’s so cute when you dictate a life of poverty and sacrifice upon others. Which Rav gave you permission to supposedly become both a semiconductor engineer and a a nuclear physicist?
AY,
It’s actually “Silver Spring”, a Maryland suburb of Washington, D.C. that’s located 45 miles south of Baltimore.
jack,
Hamas-loving, Jew-hating liberals, whether in academia, media, entertainment, BLM or the democRAT party, all proudly self-identify as WOKE”. Our people have always had enemies from without but our worst enemies have always been from within. During the Holocaust, kapos energetically crammed Jews into ghettos, cattle cars, gas chambers and crematoria. Modern day heirs to this shameful legacy, such as the hate-enabling Sally Kornbluth, unfortunately exist.
Passionately defending worthless, anti-Semitic scum like Claudine Gay on YWN? Unbelievable.
jack,
You may not have gotten the memo but “WOKE” refers to every insanity that you and your liberal coreligionists currently worship. Like “gender is a social construct”, “all white people are evil”, “gas stoves are destroying the world” and most laughable, “Claudine Gay is qualified and loves Jews”.
How are you going to respond when as usual, your anti-Semitic besties violently protest support of Israel as part of the platform during the convention?
coffee,
One can simply become a self-trained “nuclear physicist and semiconductor engineer” like our very imaginative Joey. That’ll leave plenty of time for dealing with “multiple wives, giving Shiurim and answering a Shaila hotline”, just as he does.
Joseph,
Grow up, you child. Harav Feldman, Shlita explicitly wrote in his letter, “the Moetzes approved sending out flyers to the Agudah mailing list announcing the event and its importance”. Only a minority of the Moetzes later signed to forbid attendance at the rally.
Once again, keep your lies and made-up religion to yourself!
Joseph,
Nothing new here and you’re still playing childish games. This letter from Harav Feldman, Shlita on his personal stationary explains why he withdrew his support at the last minute on Tuesday morning. It does not purport to speak for anyone else on the Moetzes. You still can’t provide any proof to your claim that all or even most of them were against attending.
You also falsely implied the Moetzes had nothing to do with the initial letter yet Harav Feldman clearly writes, “the Moetzes approved sending out flyers to the Agudah mailing list announcing the event and its importance”.
Once again, please keep your lies and made-up religion to yourself.
Joseph,
Nothing new here and you’re still playing childish games. This letter from Harav Feldman, Shlita on his personal stationary explains why he withdrew his support at the last minute on Tuesday morning. It does not purport to speak for anyone else on the Moetzes. You still can’t provide any proof to your claim that all or even most of them were against attending.
You also falsely implied the Moetzes had nothing to do with the initial letter yet Harav Feldman clearly writes, “the Moetzes approved sending out flyers to the Agudah mailing list announcing the event and its importance”.
Once again, please keep your lies and made-up religion to yourself.
common,
Please see the letter on Cross Currents from R. Hauer of the O.U. where he explains:
“Painful as it was to leave Torah off the program, we all did so consistent with the principle that allowed us to be at that table to begin with, steering clear of areas where there are for now irreconcilable theological differences”
Joseph,
Stop playing games. You know as well as everyone that most of the Gedolim did not forbid attending. Those that signed are not individuals whose Psak must be adhered to by all frum Jews in this country.
Back up your claim that “the decision was for people not to go”, implying that it came from the entire Moetzes by providing a letter signed by all or even most them. Otherwise, please keep your made-up religion to yourself.
Joseph,
Please cite which Moetzes members, by name, you are alleging decided for people not to go, along with producing any evidence you have of a signed letter to such effect.
Joseph,
Let’s review. The Agudah originally released a statement encouraging people to attend the rally. The majority of Gedolim on the Moetzes did not sign-on with their colleagues who later forbade going. None of those who signed that letter have been accepted by the entire Klal as “Posek America”. Unless one’s personal Da’as Torah is one of those against going, there was no reason not to attend and thousands correctly did so.
Live your life the way you always have and feel free to make up your own religion. For the rest of us, things aren’t automatically forbidden unless specifically stated as such by those in authority to do so.
Joseph,
These “useless posters” help keep people’s thoughts focused on our brothers and sisters being held in captivity by Hamas monsters, especially given our relatively easy lives outside of Eretz Yisrael. They’re obviously having the desired effect since you and the deranged poster-ripper find them so highly objectionable. Is he a friend of yours?
Joseph,
Vital U.S. support for Israel in its war against Hamas, especially from elected officials, is tenuous and depends on votes. When our enemies can muster tens of thousands to D.C. who angrily demand an end to this support, a counter rally must bring even more voices in order for this support to continue. Davening and learning are unquestionably our weapons. Yet due to the “great concern about the extremely volatile political climate here in the United States”, organizations such as Agudah “feel it is important, midarchei ha’shtadlonus, that there be a large turnout at this event”.
It’s not hard to understand.