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“zionist caused holocaust” that is a disturbing statement which I shudder to see written by a fellow jew. Apart from the fact we are not neviim and do not know why the holocaust happened, the blame for the holocaust lies with the nazis. End of. Hitler was very specific when he blamed all the worlds ills on the jews. He and the nazis did not differentiate between any of us, religious or otherwise. No one type of jew was spared and to blame an event of that magnitude on one type of jew simply displays your own prejudices and means what you say cannot be taken seriously.
I’m not going to get into a yes no debate because that is pointless. I never said there weren’t peaceful periods but there were also peaceful periods in europe. I wouldn’t call that though a happy coexistence. Jews under arab rule have suffered immensely over the centuries and to claim otherwise is burying your head in the sand. @UJM i cited 2 examples of pogroms but there are many many such examples both in Israel and generally across the arab countries (see the Rambams statements on Yishmoel). I agree however that this is a function of galus, hence my point, not everything can be blamed on the zionists and to claim otherwise is simply historically inaccurate. Calls therefore to revert to arab rule are highly misguided.
You are ignoring the point. The point I was making was that jews did not leave peacefully with arabs prior to the state/zionism. I was simply pointing to several examples prior to the state which cannot be possiblt blamed on zionists and there are many many more such examples and you cannot simply dismiss the point because it is inconvenient for you. Again the point is that Jews arrange living together has not been a peaceful coexistence so it cannot just be blamed on zionists.
I rarely ever post on here but when you keep repeating the claim that riots in israel eg the tzfat riot of 1929 is beacuse of the zionists and that before the zionists the jews lived safely in Israel is factually incorrect. How do you explain the riots in tzfat in the 19th century eg tzfat 1834 or 1838? Not everything can be blamed on the zionists.