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All I can say about Bnos Sara is that when I was a madricha on Neve campus, all the girls came over to me and said “if that (pointing to a Bnos Sara girl) is what being religious means and that how is how they act then I want to become religious”….nuff said
Longing-for-Israel: Wow, many kids must feel you understand their struggles well. Question: Must the “combination approach” be jumpstarted FIRST by meeting the kids “b’asher hoo sham”/where they are right now, and THEN a bit of both? Or there are really no hard-and-fast rules for this?
Genrally that meeting them on their turf is the way it goes because in most cases why would they listen to you if youre talking about shabbos, they have heard it all before. They want to hear something new, different and exciting. And believe you me hearing soemone who is dressed yeshivish talk street (not bad street, just street) is very fascinating to them. Once you grab their attention and show them that your fun and interesting, then you sneak in the shabbos and the mitzvot. Again this is generally, obviously every single person is different.
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I am so sorry that you are going through something like this. I would love to be of help and I actually know a family who went through something like this (the child eventually came back on bh) but the mother who went through so much is a great chizuk to other parents going through similar situations. If you would like to contact her please email me (you can get my email through the mods) and I would love to give you her number and she would also love to speak with you. I hope all this is in the past very soon and I am davening for you always.
Honestly a great combinaion of both. And now that I am in kiruv on the other end (bh) you see that just one thing never really works. It has to be a good comnbintaion and balance of both.
wow!!! that is awful, I am so sorry that happened to you! yes, try Neve they are fantastic or the new MEOR that opened up on Neve campus. If nothing works out there are great seminary/colleges in the states. I know a couple in five towns area/brooklyn. Good luck!
Take a look at this book on Rebbetzin Kanievsky, Rav Chaim passionately beleives that you tell parents right away (I assume in normal situation)
That is correct, Rav Chaim believes that in the zchus of telling your parents right away and making them so happy, then your child will be absolutely healthy
@superme first off I am very sorry that you or anyone else has to be in such a dreadful situation. We send our children to school hoping that they will be in an environment where they can grow, trust and become the people they are meant to be. Sadly not all teachers, morahs, rebbes are meant to be in this field and can do an incredible amount of damage to the students, and I am sorry you had to be one of them.
That being said, there are also wonderful wonderful mechanchim out there who would not only love to help you through this difficult time, but who are also proffesionals at dealing with this kind of situation. I am sure if you ask around to the RIGHT people, they will point you in the right direction.
I wish you the best of luck and much hatzlacha and hope that all the wounds and scars heal quickly and painlessly.August 21, 2013 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm in reply to: Best way to break in four-inch stilettos before Yom Tov? #971905
this was the most entertaining thread! thank you for the laughter!!