Lostspark

So when the Rebbe maintained the idea that b’hatznei leches is key to bringing Moshiach many times over the years what part of this did you not understand?

Don’t tell me he changed his mind when the nutjobs in the later years took advantage of him after the stroke.

It’s people like you CS, whom the Rebbe was clearly against that make fools out of Lubavitch.

Sometimes I think the Litvaks mastering Gemara and growing kollels are doing more to create a dira bitachtonim than ChaBaD is. I’m not going to ask any more questions as you have exposed yourself as another lazy meshichist who thinks saying yechi does something. This is an absolute chillul Lubavitch.

CS: Do you believe the Geulah will come if all yidden accept the Lubavitcher Rebbe as Moshiach?

Is not believing in the Rebbe delaying Moshiachs coming?

Is 770 the dwelling place for the Shechina?

CS It’s amazing to see all the miracle stories and videos where yidden went to the Rebbe or wrote a pan and they got exactly what they needed. Even after gimmel Tammuz!

Strangely I have yet to see a JEM video that covers a story that didn’t work out, that could mean one of two things:

1. The Rebbes brocha works 100% of the time

2. You know the answer.

Maybe you should encourage everyone here to write panim to iggros and the Rebbe will tell them to become lubavitchers!

Or maybe you should take a step back and realize your condescending attitude does more harm to Chabad than anything else, and you are in over your head.

I’m pretty sure neither of those movements (satmar/bobov) have the eschatological reasons to push chassidus like Chabad does. Remember even the word chassidus means different things to a Lubavitcher and another chassidim. When a Lubavitcher hears chassidus he hears Chabad chassidus, when another chasid hears chassidus, it could be from any branch.
(Please don’t pretend this isn’t true Menachem)

Non Lubavitchers are often referred to as “polisher” or “chagas” chassidim, chagas is an acronym for chesed, gevurah, and tiferes. Those of you familiar with the sefiros will realize why a chabadnik doesnt read the sfas emes or chovas hatalmidim.

Remember the six chabad rebbeim leading up to the Lubavitcher Rebbe are likened to Zeir Anpin, with the Rebbe being malchus. This is the reason on the emphasis Dor Shvii, the seventh generation has been taught the deepest secrets (chabad chassidus) by the Nasi HaDor (LR) in order to bring Moshiach.

It is what it is

“ btw I’m pretty sure I’m descended from the Baal Shem Tov because we carry the name Aisenberg, although the exact details of the yichus are still shrouded in time).”

What does your doubtful gezh status have this have to do with you answering none of my questions?!?

Here’s a question, since the shlucha asked for it:

If the Rebbe is atzmus melubash haguf how does he have free will?

A tzaddik gamur (a given for the sake of argument) has no yetzer hara, this defeats the purpose of bechirah.

CS:

Did the Rebbe trim his beard before marrying?

Why didn’t the Rebbe have children?

How come the Rebbitzin didn’t wear a sheitl but the Rebbe encouraged all Lubavitch women to do so? How come everyone lies when asked?

Why does one half of ChaBaD hold by the later year sichos and the other says they shouldn’t have been released or are inventions by the chassidim?

How come we constantly talk about achdus but yet the politics of the shluchim are the biggest cases of sinas Yisrael I’ve ever seen.

Why did official (Krinsky, Kunin, Kalartsky) Chabad all the sudden become Zionists after Oct 07? It’s funny because Kehos /SIE conveniently left out the entire beginning of kuntres u’maayan in the English volumes haha, I guess only part of the Rebbe RaShaBs points were important.

Thank you,

A concerned Lubavitcher

I’m above replying to you. It’s a waste of my time.

ChaBaD is good for the litvish we as their derech is boring dull and dry. We give you something to talk about : )

QWERTY at least they look like yidden, every modern orthodox couple I’ve seen tries to look like a goy in public out of shame of yiddishkeit.

QWERTY ask the ChaBaD rabbi at your ChaBaD Shul, he’ll understand the joke.

I still haven’t gotten a response for the source I provided.

I guess it’s checkmate and now the diversions will begin.

Philosopher would you mind translating my source that shows you are completely wrong for QWERTY?

Judging by qwertys hysterical responses to everything I believe QWERTY may actually be a woman. There is no way a man could possibly be this irrational, plus look at who she is in good company with, another unstable chabad obsessed woman.

I’ll take the Or Hachaims’ words over two women’s minds preoccupied by sinas chinam and modern mushugas:

וישק לו. פירוש לו נשק אבל אין נכון לעשות כן למת אחר כי המת גדוש בטומאה וטומאתו בוקעת ועולה עד לרקיע ותפגם הנפש הנושקת אלא לו ליעקב כי חי הוא אלא דורמיטא קראתו כישן ונרדם

ויחנטו הרופאים. עשה כן יוסף משום כבוד אביו כי כן משפט הנכבדים ומכל שכן גדולי המלכות, או כדי שלא יטעו בו כשלא יחנטוהו שלא מת או שמת ולא הסריח ויעשוהו אלוה כי הוא פלא בעמים המזוהמים וסובב לבלתי יעלהו לארץ קבורתו, ואם לא היה טעמים הנזכרים הדבר פשוט כי בלא חניטה לא היה מסריח, וצא ולמד ממעשה ר’ אלעזר ברשב”י כאמור בש”ס (ב”מ פד:)

או אפשר לומר כי לצד שישראל שעמדו על הר סיני פסקה זוהמתן (שבת קמו.) ולזה צדיקי ישראל מאז והלאה לא היו מסריחין אחר מותם ואפילו עיפוש הנשאר בבטן יבש ויהיה לעפר כי זוהמת הגוף היא המסרחת אוכל שבמעים מה שאין כן קודם לכן, והגם שנאמר שגופו של יעקב לא יסריח כי לא מת אבל על כל פנים עיפוש המאכל אשר ישאר בגוף האדם כנום כי ירבו לו הימים יתעפש ויסריח ולזה חש יוסף וצוה לחנוט

או אפשר כי יוסף לא ידע מסוד זה וצוה לחנוט

QWERTY your reference to a now irrelevant goyish artist both dates you and exposes your exposure to tameih teachings.

I place you as a boomer. Studies have show leaded fuel has had severe mental consequences on your generation. Further discussion on any serious subject is going to prove to be beyond your grasp.

B”H the EPA has provided protections to the younger generation who’s mental acuity has proven intact during the course of this discussion.

Philosopher I will then daven for your shalom bayis, you obviously have sublimated your problems with men into this discussion.

Philosopher I’ll daven you find your bashert this coming year. There is no reason you have to continue being this miserable.

I’m sure your future husband can easily walk you through this issue in understanding a Rashi.

ועל דרך הקבלה יעקב אבינו לא מת שלא היתה מדתו כענין שאר מדות הקצוות שהן גורמות ההפכים, ובאור זה כי מדתו הוא המכריע ואע”פ שהוא כלול מכל המדות ומקבל מהן בעבור שהוא עולה דרך סלולה עד ראשית הראשית שהוא מקור החיים, על כן אמרו ביעקב לא מת ולא אמרו כן על אברהם ויצחק לפי שהן מדות הקצוות לימין ולשמאל הגורמות ההפכים ולפיכך יעקב אבינו לא מת אך נשאר קיים בגוף ובנפש, הגוף הזה הוא הגוף השני הדק שבו הנפש מתלבשת בצורת גוף ויש לו ממש אבל הוא דק עד מאד מתלבשת בו לעתים מזומנות והוא מערב שבת לערב שבת או מיום הכפורים ליום הכפורים הוא משוטט בעולם בשליחותו של הקב”ה ומתראה למי שהוא חפץ בו כי הראשון הגס נחנט ונקבר כפשוטו של מקרא, וזהו מאמר החכם שאמר מקרא אני דורש שנאמר (ירמיה מו) הנני מושיעך ואת זרעך, מקיש הוא לזרעו מה זרעו בחיים אף הוא בחיים כלומר מה זרעו בחיים בגוף ובנפש אף הוא בחיים בגוף ובנפש והוא הגוף שהזכרתי.

Don’t worry this isn’t a ChaBaD source 🙂

I suggest the conversation continues in Hebrew/Yiddish in order to create a barrier of entry for the dentist that forgot to take his meds.

Philosopher are you a reform “rabbi?”, was this the subject material for your bas mitzvah vort?

Here is a test for the mods:

Rumor has is Shach was well versed in the works of a certain mad Austrian painter yimach shemo hence his aversion to the Lubavitcher Rebbe. I didn’t hear this directly but a big Rav said it! It explains the litvish hashkafa until late to be an elitist, until ChaBaD showed up and everyone decided Kiruv was the only way to maintain baal habatim. Do you think bochurim from brisk, volozhin, and slaboka put Tefillin on disenfranchised yidden before the Rebbe?

I’ve noticed those will no Kabbalas ol tend to judge others to make themselves feel better about their short comings. It’s easy to try and make ChaBaD look bad when you don’t amount to anything. This entire thread is proof of this.

Call me a child, it’s a compliment compared to the gnats that post in this forum.

Hakatan:

According to shaar hagilgulim a wife returns with her husband to be his bashert in gilgul.

QWERTY take your check mate.

I’m signing off.

You’re not the shoiteh gadol, I am for bothering to argue with one.

This was a complete waste of my time.

Since we like to source R. Shach on ChaBaD let’s see what he thinks about Modern Orthodoxy:

“Shach wrote that Yeshiva University-type institutions posed a threat to the endurance of authentic Judaism. He called them “an absolute disaster, causing the destruction of our Holy Torah. Even the so-called ‘Touro College’ in the USA is a terrible disaster, a ‘ churban ha-das ‘ (destruction of the Jewish religion)…” [53] Shach writes that the success of those people who were able to achieve greatness in Torah, despite their involvement in secular studies, are “ma’aseh satan” (the work of the satanic forces), for the existence of such role models will entice others to follow suit, only to be doomed.[54] In conversation with an American rabbi in the 1980s, Shach stated, “The Americans think that I am too controversial and divisive. But in a time when no one else is willing to speak up on behalf of our true tradition, I feel myself impelled to do so.”[41]

QWERTY what are your thoughts?

I’m sure HaRav Gadol HaDor David Berger questions the authenticity of the Zohar to promote his chuzpadik crusade against Lubavitch. I attribute it to the spiritual corruption of limud l’chol in the MO system, which Baruch HaShem is on its way out soon.

That’s checkmate!

“At the same time, his mother noticed that he was learning chassidus to the detriment of the gemora, and directed the father to take take from his all-important position and teach the child himself.”

YU hosts “pride” clubs, does ChaBaD? Maybe he should have learned chassidus to avoid this terrible aversion to the derech. Modern orthodoxy obviously has an Avodah Zarah problem with “pride”. G-d have mercy on these tormented souls.

Oh I wish I was on such a high level as Zaphod to escape the clutches of the coffee room!!!