mirroronthewall

okay, so thanks everyone for your input… a few things. first, for those that said i should just drive, im only in high school. cant do that yet. thank you, curiosity, i would have to agree with you. i know its not how they mean it, but it does come across as disgusting. yes, the bus does stop for sh’e, usually bringing me to school a half hour late. i agree that there should be a seperate minyan bus, but what can i do about it?

what nisht said; please dont think im am trying to blame my misery and self esteem issues on the men; i am simply stating the chilul hashem that ive felt. you may not agree, but ill say that plenty of the women would agree with me. i think its amazing that i get to be on taht bus and have the zchus of amen, but nevertheless, the way the women are treated is wrong. theres no reason why the men cant put their hats in the overhead compartment, or such. also, like i said in the first post, im not looking to change the world, simply bring this to men like yours attention. also, from what you have said led me to beleive it is not the same bus youre talking about, nisht.

please dont think badly of me. i just think the men should recognize the impact their actions have made on me, and strive to fix them. also, i DO beleive that the men should not be davening on the bus all together, but rather once they get to new york, or earlier in the morning, then get on on the last stop.

also; thank you, enlightenedjew. but in order to make it on time to shcool, i must take the earliest bus, which is the minyan bus. for all those who argue my point, its not the point, whether or not this is wrong. the point is, it LOOKS wrong. i doubt it says anywhere in the torah, ” its okay to treat people badly so you could daven in a place that you shouldnt even really be davening in”

i know, truthsharer, thats what i thought too!!what good is it, if its making such a huge chilul hashem? and let me tell you, they have made SUCH a chilul hashem on me. NEVER have i thought less of people in my life

yes i know, that the ‘right’ answer. but they can still be considerate about it. im not asking them to stopdavening. just to maybe once in a while apologize for the inconviniece, or even rather, the women should sit in the whole front, and the men should get the whole back, that way, the curtain will always fit, and no one is upset. are you a guy> then its non relatable to you, because plain and simple, you have to daven. but to me, as a high school student, the torah says to treat your friend like you would want to be treated, to have midos. i would think that this would be equally as important