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Damoshe: The facts you quote about chassidus are exaggerations, half truths and outright lies (some of which were actually invented by the maskilim).
Reading any chasidic Seder would clarify these issues but of course you can’t do that since you consider them to be apikorsus. And so you remain ignorant of the true facts.
I rest my case.
When a cow laughs does milk come out of its nose?
How to giggle something?
I googled it but but didn’t get any results.
Unlike another faction whose members(read rabbis) take great liberties when discussing rishonim, achronim and even tanoim and amoraim.
There is an argument to say that the Gra was fed lies about Chasidus and that his opposition was based on not really knowing what Chasidus was. But my chasidic mesorah has taught me to be extremely careful when talking about someone as great as the Gra so I won’t go down road.
Damoshe: I don’t know what early chasidim taught I know what they wrote, and in writing at least, they all advocates Torah study.
If Dreyfus would have actually commited the crime and claimed his actions were representive of the Jewish people, then yes! He would have been responsible for the anti-Semitic backlash.
Had the houswife deliberately burnt the dinner ( knowing what his reaction would be) and caused her children to be beaten cv, then yes! She would have been partly to blame.
Rule #1 is follow the Torah which answers 2 and 4.
The other cases you mentioned are examples of individuals making choices in their own lives. A movement on the hand, can and should be held responsible for the effects and repercussions of their actions on the people the claim to represent.
That doesnt excuse those who can’t.which was often taken out of context.
Chasidus taught that Torah is the ultimate way of doing that.
No it enabled them to connect to hashem on their level.
Not so hot apparently.
Which to a certain extent that were.
The Gra feared these teachings might be misunderstood by the masses.
That wasn’t a new concept at all. In fact no one disagreed.
Chasidus enabled them too, to get close to hashem.
The majority of people weren’t learning torah!
By focusing on the latter.
First put out the fire then prevent it from happening again.
Fathousewife:ur confusing Chasidus with culture. Hungarian vs American
Chasidus placed focus on different things in the Torah nothing new cv
How does that differ from the mussar movement?
:The besht never claimed a new Torah, only a new derech avoda hashem.
Damoshe: “The chasidim claimed that learning torah..” No they didn’t .
But they’re only part of the problem and not the root of the problem.
They’re to blame for enraging the arabs even if the rage isntjustified
In ivrit the saying goes “it’s better to be smart than to be right”
Can we go somewhere interesting please?
It wasn’t hurtful! YES IT WAS ! How dare you say that? It wasn’t!
Now that’s pushing it… 🙂
Is it wrong for parents in that desperate situation to charge rent?
If he didn’t lie about lying then that makes him a liar.
Because poppa said it’s allowed?
RebYidd: What if the parents can’t afford to house him?
Is it really? Have we ever lived in peace for more than 50 years?
Stand under the awning and stick their hands out (palms up)
When? Why?
Charge the same amount you charge your other guest don’t discriminate.
Is lying ever right?
DY. That’s having guest it’s different.
What’s the bottom line?
Hey kJ, that’s a very long post, what does it say?
Wow we’re starting early this year.
So what you think is right
Although it started off as an intelligent conversation.
This is all getting a bit silly.