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pac man the number of cars is irrelevent. My comparison is between ONE PERSON who engages in the activity of either driving a car or crossing the street and his chances of getting hurt, something which most people do without a second thought, and ONE PERSON being around a dog for the time period of one year, and his chances of getting hurt.

I am pretty sure that you’ll find the former to be a lot more dangerous, yet you would still drive a car, and you would still cross the street. It follows logically that you would also not mind to own a dog, unless you let irrational fears get in the way

I am NOT trying to compare the number of people who got hurt in a car accident in any particular year, and the number of people who got hurt by a dog in that same year, which would be like comparing apples to oranges

If you look up the statistics you will probably find that crossing the street or driving in a car ONE TIME is more dangerous than owning or being around a dog for a year

midwest2 just out of curiosity where do you live?

i posted this right before my post about tzar balei chaim, but somehow it got deleted, so here it is again:

R Shmuel can you tell us which REASON you are talking about?

As for reason to have one, there are many. Also, like i said above, pets reduce stress improve mood etc. (here are the links to 2 of those studies,that show that pets reduce stress lower hi blood pressure etc.,you can probably find more with google; I think that being healthy is very much with the “ruach hatorah”, don’t you?

According to this study pets can actually ADD YEARS TO YOUR LIFE. Refusal to own a pet can be a matter of PIKUACH NEFESH in some cases.

no outside links, please

coffe addict, just because you said it, ohhhhh that’s OOT

LOL 🙂

s2021 maybe its because you’re not used to dogs. If you would have dogs you wouldn’t be afraid of them

pac man, where is this kesef mishnah? the Rambam in TT actually supports what i said. the Rambam in nizkei mamom is just quoting the mishnah, like he does in many places. The Tur and Shulchan Aruch both change that mishnah to “kelev ra”. I’m sure that the Tur and Shulchan Aruch both knew the Rambam that you mentioned, quite well.

And your comparison to monkeys is so utterly ridiculous I’m not even going to comment on it

sorry, i meant to say in my first post that i was (obviously) talking about “yeshiva world” (aka yeshivish, black hat, etc.) jews

@s2021 thats interesting. Was she good at it? Did she sell her work, or just do it for fun?

i havent read any american comics in a long time, but im pretty sure that most of them are kid friendly. Unless they’re made specially….

I see your point, but actually it looked more like it was drawn by a proffesional artist and bought by the store. And its highly unlikely that a young jewish kid who was never exposed to manga would draw a picture that happens to look like manga.

And manga is not some kids cartoon like bob the builder. People of every age read manga in japan, and most of the time the comics are very adult themed (you dont have to read manga to know this).

sorry shrek it wasnt my intention to insult anyone with ciao. wasnt aware that it was an insult. guess i should brush up on my italian.

anyway everybody knows that real ogres cant be insulted. it bounces right off there thick green skin. you must be donkey, masquerading as shrek. Sayounara for now 😉

@mother in israel what you said that its refuah i doubt it. Refuah means to cure someone who is sick. Lifting weights is only building muscle. It is not a cure for anything in any way. It is not refuah.

And what you said about uvdah dchol, can you explain to me what makes it uvdah dchol? I mean, if lifting weights is indeed mutar on shabbos, then why is it any more uvdah dchol than uvdah dshabbos?

Anyway, even though i strongly suspect that it is mutar meikar didinah, I may still refrain from doing it for the simple reason that it doesn’t feel ‘shabbosdik’.