Ex-Trump Adviser Testifies On Concerns Over Ukraine

Former top national security adviser to President Donald Trump, Tim Morrison, arrives for a closed door meeting to testify as part of the House impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Oct. 31, 2019. (AP Photo/Andrew Harnik)

A former top White House official who raised concerns about President Donald Trumps efforts to push Ukraine to investigate his political rivals confirmed some aspects of earlier reports but contradicted others during testimony Thursday before House impeachment investigators .

Tim Morrison, who stepped down from the National Security Council the day before his appearance, is the first White House political appointee to testify and could be central to the effort to remove Trump from office.

Morrison largely confirmed much of what a top diplomat, William Taylor, said in earlier testimony, as the two had multiple phone conversations raising concerns about the Trump administrations approach toward Ukraine, according to a person familiar with the closed-door testimony. The person, who was not authorized to discuss the proceedings, spoke on condition of anonymity.

Republican lawmakers portrayed Morrisons opening remarks as shifting the debate favorably toward Trump.

They said Morrison, in his opening statement, contradicted another key witness, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the Army officer who handled Ukraine issues at the National Security Council. Vindman testified Tuesday that he twice sounded the alarm over the Trump administration actions.

Its a very compelling witness today that is giving testimony that contradicts some of the testimony we heard from Mr. Vindman, said Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C. Morrisons opening remarks were not publicly released.

Mr. Morrisons testimony is very damaging to the Democrat narrative, Meadows said. Theyve all of a sudden gotten quiet today because this particular witness is very credible and has given evidence that suggests some of the other witnesses have been less than candid.

Another Republican, Rep. Chip Roy of Texas, said, When you all see what he had to say, it will be interesting.

Morrison, a defense hawk well known in GOP policy circles, was the National Security Councils top adviser for Russian and European affairs until he stepped down Wednesday. A senior administration official said he had decided to pursue other opportunities. The official, who was not authorized to discuss Morrisons job and spoke only on the condition of anonymity, said Morrison has been considering leaving the administration for some time.

Morrison was expected to be asked to explain the sinking feeling that he reportedly got when Trump demanded that Ukraines president investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and interfere in the 2016 election. The national security hawk, brought on board by then-national security adviser John Bolton , has been featured prominently in previous testimony from diplomat Taylor .

It was Morrison who first alerted Taylor to concerns over Trumps phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

In fact, Morrisons name appeared more than a dozen times in testimony by Taylor, who told impeachment investigators that Trump was withholding military aid unless Zelenskiy went public with a promise to investigate Trumps political rival Biden and Bidens son Hunter. Taylors testimony contradicted Trumps repeated denials that there was any quid pro quo.

Morrison and Taylor spoke at least five times in the weeks following the July phone call as the defense expert and the diplomat discussed the Trump administrations actions toward Ukraine, according to Taylors testimony.

As the security funds for Ukraine were being withheld, Morrison told the diplomat, President doesnt want to provide any assistance at all.

Their concerns deepened when Morrison relayed on Sept. 7 the conversation he had with Ambassador Gordon Sondland a day earlier that gave him that sinking feeling. In it, Sondland explained that Trump said he was not asking for a quid pro quo but insisted that Zelenskiy go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, Taylor testified last week.

Morrison told Bolton and the NSC lawyers of this call between Trump and Sondland, according to Taylors testimony.

The spotlight has been on Morrison since August, when a government whistleblower said multiple U.S. officials had said Trump was using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.

Morrison was brought on board to address arms control matters and later shifted into a role as a top Russia and Europe adviser. It was then that he stepped into the thick of an in-house squabble about the activities of Trumps personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, who had been conversing with Ukrainian leaders outside of traditional U.S. diplomatic circles.

The impeachment probe has been denounced by the Republican president, who has directed his staff not to testify.

Regardless of what he says, GOP lawmakers will be hard-pressed to dismiss Morrison, formerly a longtime Republican staffer at the House Armed Services Committee. Hes been bouncing around Washington in Republican positions for two decades, having worked for Rep. Mark Kennedy, R-Minn., Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., and as a GOP senior staffer on the House Armed Services Committee, including nearly four years when it was chaired by Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-Texas.

Morrison told people after Bolton was forced out of his job that the national security adviser had tried to stop Giulianis diplomatic dealings with Ukraine and that Morrison agreed, according to a U.S. official, who was not authorized to discuss Morrisons role in the impeachment inquiry and spoke only on the condition of anonymity. The official said Morrison told people that with the appointment of Robert OBrien as Boltons successor, his own future work at the NSC was in a holding pattern.

Bolton brought Morrison into the NSC in July 2018 as senior director for weapons of mass destruction and biodefence.

(AP)

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