“Well, I don�t think anybody needs any advice from anybody,” she said. “You�ve heard me say even about our own distinguished Leadership, I�m not going to be the mother?in?law who comes in and say, �This is the way my son likes his turkey stuffing, his scrambled eggs,� or anything else. They have to have their own vitality about it all, and they do. And so as far as he is concerned, I � yes, we have some � we haven�t had any formal conversations, but we interact. And I�m just hoping that on January 3rd, that they will be expeditiously able to elect a Speaker, so that we can get on with the work of the Congress.”

“And just so you know, this may interest you. What I have said to everybody is the hardest thing that I had to do, since you�re asking this question, I was Speaker and Minority Leader under President Bush, under President Obama, under what�s-his-name, and just Speaker under President Biden. But three different � three different Presidents, two different roles.

“The hardest thing that I had to do, in all of � say, let�s just talk about the three � the hardest thing that I had to do, and I said this in friendship and in love and all the rest of that, is when we had a Democratic President and we were in the Majority � Minority, and we were in the Minority, as Minority Leader, to sustain a Presidential veto. Because the Republicans would roll out stuff that sounded like a chocolate sundae, but it�s more like doggie doo. But it looked good, and it played well in districts. And people would say, �Oh, this is good.�

“�No, it ain�t good. It�s terrible. It undermines the Affordable Care Act. We have to sustain the Presidential veto. This is not a casual vote. This is not a casual vote.�

“So I�d rather be writing the Affordable Care Act or any other massive legislation than to have to go to my Members and say, �My friend, in friendship, I really need your vote to sustain the President�s veto.� That was � that was the hardest.”

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