32 Responses

1. First step to solving a problem is to understand the problem, please provide more details.
   Thanks.

2. These out of town yeshivas might be able to learn some middos from the in town yeshivas.

3. שו”ת דברים בטלים סימן ו׳ ס״ק ג׳
   נשאלתי בענין מאמר שנתפרסם בעיתון, שבו הזהירו על דבר סכנה גדולה בלא לפרש שום פרטים לא מקום, לא שעה, ולא קבוצה.

   תשובה:
   אסור לפרסם אזהרה בלא שם מקום, שעת מעשה, ופרטי הנוגעים בדבר, משום חשש בלבול דעת הציבור, פחד שוא, ושבירת טלפונים לא לצורך.
   ומי שמזהיר בלא לבאר הרי זה בכלל ו”לא תשית מכשול על הורים שלא יודעים איפה הבן שלהם בכלל.”

   לפיכך: כל מי שקורא מאמר כזה — רשאי להתעלם ממנו עד שיבואו עדים כשרים ויפרשו את מקום המעשה בציון מדויק ב-Waze.
   ואם תאמר: “But it’s too sensitive!”
   תירוץ: Then don’t publish it like a suspense thriller with no ending.

4. Yeshiva World saving klal yisrael one idiotic article at a time

5. All from one yeshiva?

6. It’s all because the expired registrations..

7. what the **** are you talking about?

8. Because during the 3 weeks, we are in bad disposition

9. From personal experience, even if you haven’t done anything wrong but are hanging around with kids who commit a crime, you can still be charged. In the case I’m referring to, the driver was 18, and his friends were 16 and 17. He stopped at a shopping mall, and his three friends went inside to buy something. One of them shoplifted. A few miles later, the driver was pulled over without knowing why, but he was charged with shoplifting. It took a few months and $3,000 to sort everything out. The most the askanim could do was direct him to a good lawyer. Be forewarned.

10. What in the world is this even about? And how does Epstein’s list come to play?

11. If they are breaking the law, these boys should be arrested. We should make sure that the ashkanim don’t misuse their influence to let these Yidishe Nishamos go Rachmana Litzlon to the side. Let them learn the concept of reward and punishment. Prison could be a learning experience. Also, the parents would then take chinuch a little bit more seriously

12. I really hope i won’t be there but not sure where to avoid.

13. Thank You @ YWN

    Unfortunately, many in our circles have adopted the liberal tendency of permissiveness and “understanding”. Of “Its not your business” and “dont judge”.
    This attitude has given rise to a sorry phenomenon of increasingly reckless and dangerous behavior on the part of children who “are just misunderstood”.

    Enough is enough. Accountability is a real thing, too much rachmanus hurts the real innocent.

    To all the silly comments @Shulemacher @Yid @Shawty
    Remember to post an apology when all is said and done.

    the point is, there has been misbehavior that is unacceptable, and it will cease being tolerated.
    If you dont know where your child hangs out, find out. If you know he hangs out with unsavory characters, now is a great time to show him “al tisya’esh min hapuroniyos”.

14. Shalom Shalom Greenspan here, back with another chinnuch podcast. I wanted to share with you a quick meisa. The other day some baal haabos comes waltzing into my office with a sheila.

    He says, there was a big incident the other week in Woodbourne with a bunch of “troubled teens” from a certain Yeshiva that will not be named, but rest assured that they are from out of town.

    I said, quit the hakdamos and get straight to the point. I don’t have all day. What do you want from me?

    He says that there were some fights that took place and the police had to get involved and make some arrests.

    “Ok so what do you want from me?”

    This Baal Haabos says to me that he has a very big News outlet within the Jewish velt and feels like he has the need to say something for the masses.

    I said, are you retarded? Do I need to sock you in the face? Who do you think you are?
    Besides for that, there is no such thing as “troubled teens” there are only teams who haven’t been hit yet.

    Do me a toiva, go back behind your desk and write some more articles about Rechnitz. LOSE MY NUMBER!

15. *not the real Shalom Shalom Greenspan

16. שו״ת “עמודי האש והעשן”, סימן י״ז סעיף קט״ו

    נשאלתי: מה דינו של אדם שקרא בעיתון על סכנה נוראה ואיומה אשר רובצת כענן שחור על חוצות קריה, מבלי שנמסרו פרטים מזהים: לא מקום, לא שעה, ולא עצם הסכנה? האם מותר לו לעבור לסדר היום, או שמא עליו ללבוש שק ואפר ולהתכונן לגוג ומגוג?

    תשובה:

    דע והבן! כל מי שמקבל אזהרה כללית, אף בלא שום סימן או ציון גאוגרפי, חייב לעמוד על רגליו האחוריות ולפתוח בנביחות. שכן כבר כתב הרה”ק רבי פוביע מבאברויסק (בשו”ת “משיב חרון אף”, ח״ב או״ח תרע״ז) שאין סכנה כהתעלמות מן הסכנה, אפילו אם אינה ברורה, אלא “כאדים העולים מן הסיר ואינך יודע אם זה מרק או פצצת עשן”.

    ולכן:
    • מי שקורא מאמר אזהרה – אף אם חסרים בו כל פרטי המעשה – חייב לצעוק “איי איי איי!” בקול רם ולברוח למרחב מוגן.
    • ואף אם הסכנה באוסטרליה, והוא בניו ג’רזי – הרי כולנו גוף אחד, וכשנוגעים באצבע הקטנה של היקום – כולו נרעד.
    • ויש להחמיר ולהניח תפילין דר”ת גם בלילה, ולחבוש קסדה בשעת קריאת העיתון.

    ואם תאמר: “אבל אין שום מקור לזה!”
    תשובה: אין אנו צריכים מקורות – עצם היעדר הידיעה הוא ראיה שיש משהו שמסתירים מאיתנו!

    לפיכך: כל הקורא אזהרה כללית ואינו נבהל – הרי זה מפקיר את נשמתו, ושמא אף עובר על “ונשמרתם מאוד לנפשותיכם” כדרשת ר’ שמריה מוויזניץ – אפילו בלי נפשות

17. Yid: That was one of the best comments I ever saw!

18. YWN. You don’t need to mention a name of a yeshiva but if you want this warning to be affective you MUST specify the location and what the crime is.

    As of now, You are maybe referring to talking a walk near a lake ??? Or maybe to singing Zimirot Shabbas too loud or too low…… Or are you maybe referring to making KIDUSH LIVONO and dancing afterwards at a late hour ??? This Indeed involves the bochurim and also others. I’ll tell my bochir to stay locked up in his room the entire weekend to avoid being arrested for an UNKNOWN mysterious crime.

19. perfect! i don’t know, and therefore i don’t care.

20. As an anonymous women I’ve been to this undisclosed location and it’s Takkah true what they said, I felt extremely uncomfortable and it was such a goyish matzive. A message to the out of town mothers, please take your Bochrim (if you could even call them that) back to your little Shtettle so they could stop this insanity in this undisclosed location.

21. Seems like there needs to be more supervision and worthwhile activities for these boys to do. Does this happen every year?
    Are they involved in these activities while in yeshiva too? Maybe yeshivas need more oversight during the year.

22. *An article circulating online claimed that a yeshiva with hundreds of bachurim caused major disturbances in Woodbourne over the weekend, putting a strain on local law enforcement…*

    After talking to multiple people who were there during the incident, we believe it is being blown way out of proportion.

    Yes, there was a decent-sized crowd, as there always is on a busy Motzei Shabbos in the Catskills. Yes, it was noisy — but nothing out of the ordinary for this time of year. According to eyewitnesses and community members familiar with the situation, the incident was more about crowd size and limited police presence than any serious misconduct.

    The group included bachurim from various yeshivos, and things may have gotten a bit loud or slightly disruptive. The local police department in Fallsburg was operating with very few officers on duty at the time. When the crowd started to grow, state troopers were called in as backup — not because of violence, but simply for crowd control.

    The idea that this was some kind of law enforcement crisis appears to be overstated.

    At the same time, situations like these, even if they happen without bad intentions or end up exaggerated — should be avoided when possible. As the Am Hanivchar, we have a responsibility to represent ourselves with respect and be mindful of how our actions are perceived, especially by law enforcement and the broader public.

23. The teens are planning to storm the hotels and restaurants that are withholding cholent on Thursday night and Friday in consideration of the psak to only eat cholent on Shabbos.

24. Thanks YWN for this helpful warning. I already called my bubby to cancel her kiddush because apparently the entire Catskills is now under martial law. Can someone DM me if the dangerous teens are at ShopRite or still by the pizza store?

25. While the article stresses the urgency of the situation and insists that nothing is exaggerated, it offers no concrete facts, locations, or even general descriptions of what’s happening making it nearly impossible for parents to take meaningful action (not that most parents are truly able to control where their teenage sons go on weekends in the first place). Instead of offering support or solutions, the tone is harsh, judgmental, and deeply lacking in empathy. Lines like “you know who you are” feel more like public shaming than responsible guidance, as if parents are complicit in something they often have little power to stop. Many of these parents are likely trying their best to maintain connection with their sons, struggling quietly and doing what they can and this kind of language only deepens feelings of helplessness, inadequacy, and guilt. An article that could have encouraged awareness and safety instead feels like a pointed reprimand. It alienates the very audience it should aim to support and sadly misses an opportunity to effect real, positive change.

26. YWN: We can’t say where, who, or what happened, but trust us, your son might get arrested by the FBI this Shabbos. Bro I just wanted to go to Mincha and maybe chap a kugel, not end up in Guantanamo bay.

27. I love mushrooms. Can you tell me address

28. I read the article three times. Still not sure if I’m the problem. I was upstate. I was with a group. Someone may have screamed. I did buy a Snapple. Should I turn myself in now or wait till after Havdalah?

29. I showed the article to my chavrusa. He said Baruch Hashem we’re learning Tosfos and not part of this violence. Then he tripped over a garbage can and got arrested by mistake.

30. I’ve taken it upon myself to go undercover this weekend for the safety of the klal. I’ll be dressed like a regular teenager, hoodie, soda cup, mildly confused expression. I’ll walk over casual, say I’m just chilling, and ‘not affiliated with any media outlet. Then, once I gain their trust, I’ll pull out a clipboard and ask if anyone has prior arrests. I’ve also pre-taped a sign to my back that says Not Involved, just to be proactive. With Hashem’s help and a little luck, I should be able to blend in undetected. I expect to have a basic report typed up for YWN by Sunday morning.

31. UPDATE: For safety, we’ve divided the Catskills into official colored zones, under the supervision of the Central Jewish Zoning Task Force (CJZT), a volunteer initiative powered by YWN.

    • Red Zone – High Risk: Woodbourne. Multiple unsupervised teens. Loud music. Stores open. Authorities spotted a folding table flipped on its side, unclear if from wind or argument.
    • Orange Zone – Moderate Risk: Liberty. A minyan formed in a parking lot near a gas station, followed by tzedakah collectors without proper paperwork.
    • Yellow Zone – Under Review: Woodridge. Long line outside the ice cream store. Teenagers exchanging ambiguous fist bumps. Someone brought a guitar. Situation stable, but fragile.
    • Green Zone – Safe: South Fallsburg. One rebbi walking slowly with a sefer. One squirrel. Peaceful. Chips being eaten respectfully.

    CJZT will continue to assess the situation hourly. If your son is spotted in a Red Zone, we recommend immediate extraction via minivan or fake dentist appointment. Stay vigilant. Stay hydrated.

32. What a ridiculous article. If it’s a real issue, at the very least- name the location.
    At best – name the yeshiva so the Hanholo pulls up its bootstraps and the parents see that wayward children are dealt with.
    If I was a Brit I’d say this article is total rubbish.