The Satmar Rebbe of Kiryas Yoel, HaRav Aharon Teitelbaum, blasted the increasingly out-of-control music and atmosphere at chasunos during remarks delivered last Tuesday in Williamsburg.
While the Rebbe was addressing his own kehila, many say the message resonates far beyond, as standards surrounding wedding music and dancing have been increasingly pushed in recent years.
At many weddings today, bochurim can be seen dancing to loud, club-style DJ music — particularly during the chosson and kallah’s entrance — in a manner seen as disconnected from the kedusha a chasuna is meant to have.
About time someone finally said it.
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Let’s talk about the real problems in Klal Yisroel…
pmurt; Feel free to talk about them to your kehila.
Suggestion: Put on better chasunas, music at reasonable volume that doesn’t damage the hearing, train special mesamchim to dance without wildness but that still makes everyone feel very good, etc, and get the idea to spread. I’m sure the Rebbe and other concerned leaders/mashpi’im could do it if they tried.
pmurt
Different than other gedolim he’s involved in many projects for the klal
Very tzim zach
He is 100% right!
The Kosher Music Organization writes on their website (koshermusic.org) that they created their organization for this exact purpose and that they are almost finished making their kosher music guidelines for chasunos. Maybe someone should go tell the Rebbe.
BE MORE SPECIFIC.
IF ANYTHING “2 WRONGS DONT MAKE 1 RIGHT”.
I”M NOT A FANATIC, BUT UNFORTUNALY ITS A SHAME TO WALK IN TO CHASUNA.
Thank you Rebbe for finally saying what needed to said long ago! The loud noise some-call-it-music hurts the ears. That is not Yidish either. All the goyishe cars with their loud noise/music can be hard and the vibrations felt from the distance. That is not what our music ought be.
Another thing nobody is going to listen to unfortunately, but at least other ears are noticing it
pmurt says: Let’s talk about the real problems in Klal Yisroel…
OK…he is talking about the real problems: maybe you do not understand the problem when Bucherim dance away at chasenes like they are now in a Night Club…The Satmere Rebbe does know the problem and he is always mentioning the pertzes hador, should it be Sheitels, Tzenius, Music, Narrow pants, or any other pertze..he is on top of every issue regarding Kedishes Hamokom. Of course the critics will always find to criticize him on every issue but BH there is still left an AM Kudosh who are Farekeled from those weddings. You can see the older generation sitting at chasenes biting their nails watching those horrified dances at chasenes of their einiklech or family members.
@pmurt – What exactly do you call a “real” problem?
The goyisha music brings to young people minds going lost.
To pmurt
Let’s talk about the real problems in Klal Yisroel????? Yes, this is a serious issue, and I’m glad the Satmar Rebbe is addressing it. But the bigger problem is that there are people like you who don’t think the music being played at today’s wedding is even an issue.
@pmurt; Yes, this is one of the “real” problems – 50 years ago I heard a shmus from my Rosh Yeshivah about the impact of music and the dangers of non-kosher ones!
REAL or NOT REAL everyone will decide something else is the REAL PROBLEM,
BUT it is a PROBLEM and he has the full right to express his opinion
Why can’t he just talk to his brother already? Seriously.
ENOUGH.
Stop telling everyone what to do and take care of that chillul hashem.
shaila i have is…. how does he even know about this? When he comes into a wedding, they play the same satmar 6th hakafa niggun and he dances, and makes lechyim and leaves.
must be…. someone showed him a clip/.
What a minute!
A HE SAW A CLIP?!?!?!?!?
Nuff said
by the way, he is right about this.
It has crept into the most yeshivish chasunos possible. Very disturbing to watch.
No one says a word.
Always the people who care least about Torah Concepts and Holiness that come to bark at the people who come to talk about it. The ones who really need to hear the message are the ones who turn away
כיצד מרקדים לפני הכלה
כלה נאה וחסודה
גם איך שהמה מרקדים
אש תמיד תוקד על המזבח ולא תכבה אם דגש
Every rebbe dealing with the public sees clips and must see clips to understand the problem. You think only Reb Aharon sees clips. So do all. From Tosh to Bobov to leaders in Chabad. In fact the Lubavitcher rebbe had a radio in his time. You think Rabbi Avigdor Miller didn’t read clippings from newspapers pertaining to the Jewish world. Don’t be nieve. All rebbes who deal with public issues keep up with media. It doesn’t mean they sit on a computer all day. They read and are shown clips be it through followers or experts in various fields. How do you think Reb Moshe Feinstein knew details of issues that halachicly effected klal yisroel. Even the great Sanhedrin needed to know the ins and out of black magic and idol worshiping methods.
Kudos to Rebbe Aaron for speaking out about this very important matter. This problem is brought about by the modern musical instruments with their powerful accompanying overwhelming, annoying, and dangerous amplification. Perhaps a movement should be started for old-fashioned music, meaning old instruments and no modern amplification. That way you can have a chassunah now like your ancestors had.
Exposer….did you listen to the video posted here?????
“Uber Ich Hehr Vus Geiyt Fuhr Bei Di Chasunos”
Lemayseh: My father ע”ה told me that amplified music at chasunos only started in the 60’s when it was copied from the hippies etc. Before that chasunos were actually held without it, believe it or not!
I usually don’t agree with this Rebbe generally, BUT I will give him credit for denouncing the corrupt music and dancing at weddings recently. It definitely does not bring Brocho into the marriage. It’s basically become a hangout like the in the bars and all rotten low places. It’s time to bring back the varemkeit at weddings.
What about sitting on this Gold chair i think that’s also out of control and lack of Ztnius so is the spending time & money for every single einikles wedding and private jets etc. The list goes on..
Exposer…… we are required to have an ayin tova. we are required to be dan lkaf zechus. here, neither is required….we need to hear what is factually being said……….. the Rebbe said I hear what is going on by weddings. can you please hear what he is saying??
A small note of apology would be kavod hatzibur
Did he say anything about the size and opulence of giant Rebbishe weddings too? Or are they not a “thing” in Satmer?
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I am not a satmar chosid in any shape, size or form. However, one has to ask why the yeshivishe continue on as business as usual and don’t make a peep about this problem which causes hearing loss. Once again, there is a significant aloofness between Roshei yeshiva and the hamon am. Just shoveling in money for their mosdos, regardless of what the long term consequences may be.
When we were in Yeshiva, our Mashgiach always emphasized the importance of maintaining an outside circle during dancing to ensure proper decorum.
I also feel that the high decibel level probably damages the ear drums. I personally try to bring ear plugs at Chasunos.
Just because people don’t listen, it doesn’t make the roshei yeshiva corrupt. It’s a test like anything else and people are stubborn and don’t want to change. And they’re afraid of being less than everyone else. But the point is true that the music is too loud and very often not appropriate, probably part of the reason it became that way is the people providing the music are not exactly always the most Ehrlich.
the rabbi has a strong point and a strong backbone! perhaps he could say some sharp words on the what the concerts look like today, nothing remotely jewish.
Uncle Ben: Thank you very much for sharing that. Not long ago I read a music column by Mendi Glick which touched on the history of the rock and roll genre. Basically it seems that it came about post WWII thanks to the addition of electricity into music, e.g. electric guitars, amplifiers. So that fits with what you reported.