As so-called “civilized” Western nations, including the UK and Australia, prepare to publicly support terror by announcing the unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state at the UN General Assembly in New York on Sunday, a member of the Moetzet Chachmei HaTorah in Jerusalem said that the persecution of Israel is a result of its war against Bnei Torah.
“We must open our eyes,” said HaGaon HaRav Moshe Maya in a conversation with Radio Kol Baramah on Sunday morning. “Until now we had tremendous yeshuos with Hezbollah and Iran. Even the IDF Chief of Staff and the Defense Minister, who at first were not so well-regarded, had extraordinary Siyata Dishmaya—all this was until they arrested one ben yeshivah.”
“From the moment they arrested one ben yeshiva, a political tsunami was unleashed against Israel. Hakadosh Baruch Hu is saying to them: If you don’t want the Siyata Dishmaya of the Torah, I’ll sit on the side and you’ll manage.”
“The nations of the world are afraid when there is Torah in Israel,” HaRav Maya emphasized.
HaRav Maya also addressed the issue of the conscription of Lomdei Torah for a milchemet mitzva and determined that it is forbidden even in such a case. He called for an emergency meeting of the Moetzet and other Moetzos with the aim of issuing an unequivocal decision stating that “it is forbidden to violate Din Torah, and bnei yeshivos must not be touched.”
HaRav Maya added, “The first principle that I stand on is that Bnei Torah are exempt. That’s what the Rambam says, and no one disputes him—and this applies even in the case of a milchemet mitzvah.”
(YWN Israel Desk—Jerusalem)
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So when bad things happen to other people, it’s because of their sins, but when bad things happen to the charedi community (like losing government funding, or having people arrested, or Meron), it’s not because of their sins?
“HaRav Maya also addressed the issue of the conscription of Lomdei Torah for a milchemet mitzva and determined that it is forbidden even in such a case.”
Can the esteemed Rav please explain why? Pashut pshat seems to say otherwise – if he has a reason to conclude otherwise, it would behove him to explain it to the public. Else, this is just another “trust me” statement without Halachic significance.
an Israeli Yid
Tell the rav Shlita there is no kesher between the state of Israel and yahadus
Wow, so many arrogant know it alls here.
As usual the IsraeliSHMADyid right away runs to question a holy Rabbi and spit at his words because he disagrees and feels he knows better. Always the impulse reaction from a rasha to put down a gadol. But iyh he will be put down soon instead
Israeli there were always 3 member teams the guy learning the guy on the front lines and the guy is supplying the guy on the front lines
@reb”Emes” – when I was in Yeshiva, I was taught by my Rabeim that a Rav has to be prepared to explain his Piskei Halacha. The particular statement I quoted gave a seeming Psak stating that a particular Halacha does not apply – but gave no support for that position. This, unfortunately, has become typical for statements by certain leaders about this particular area of Halacha – and as I’ve said previously, any such statement can not betaken as a Halachicly-based decision I’d no Halachic reasoning is provided.
You consider that “Shmad”? That’s fine with me – but I’d ask what your basis for that is. And I don’t wish for you to be “put down” – I just wish for you to do Teshuva. If HKB”H opened Hagar’s eyes so that she could see what was directly in front of her but that she’d missed before, perhaps he will do the same to you too.
an Israeli Yid
Why do you jump to assume he’s an idiot just because he didn’t give you a source? How come you automatically have no trust for anything they say? The fact that you could even dream to think he’s a buffoon shows that you’re a low life and already a disrespecter torah. I’ve already seen what you have to say about Rav Lando, Rav zilberstein, Rav Yosef, your filthy writing is sprawled all over this site. So we don’t need to prove to people like you anything, because you’re not a follower of our religion. You’re in Israel, go over to them and get the answers, make an appointment, find out how to meet with him instead of trashing him online behind the cover of your screen. But of course you won’t do that because you already made your decision that the Attorney General is your hero and that you celebrate when kollel lomdim fall
@reb”Emes” – I did not call him either an idiot of a buffoon; do not put words in my mouth. And after close to two years of war and increasingly strident statements with no Halachic reasoning presented by them (in contrast to those with opposing views, who have presented such reasoning), I am more than within my rights to ask them for a reason before following them. We said Na’aseh veNishma – yes, we will follow, but also need to eventually get an explanation – and that was an answer to HKB”H himself. A Rav is not entitled to greater deference than the Ribono shel Olam.
You don’t like what I write? That’s your problem, not mine. I may at times write sharply, but I base myself on classic normative Torah and Halacha. You and your fellow travelers, on the other hand, have redefined “Jew” and “Judaism” to mean “people who follow my Shita only”. So who’s the one who’s filled with hate here?
And as an aside – I happen to thing the AG’s role in Israel is a Frankenstein’s monster of a creation, and should be done away with. I neither like or support the AG – but that does not mean she’s always wrong. Chazal say to accept the truth from whatever the source – even when it’s from someone you don’t like.
an Israeli Yid