President Barack Obama is drawing a distinction between China�s alleged intellectual property theft and what he calls �standard fare� spying on other countries.

Obama says every country engages in intelligence gathering, which he called an occasional source of tension. But the president says there�s a big difference between China trying to find out what he�s saying in meetings with the Japanese and a hacker connected with the Chinese government breaking into Apple or other U.S. companies.

Obama pressed China�s president on cyberhacking last week during a meeting in California. Obama said their conversations on the topic were �very blunt.�

Obama spoke in an interview with PBS� Charlie Rose.

(AP)