The Goyish Concept of Diamond Engagement Rings and Brides Wearing White Gowns

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    ytvalumni
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    De Beers spearheaded the idea of getting engaged with a diamond engagement ring with its mass advertising only seventy five years ago. This is a newfangled idea. It has no place in Jewish tradition.

    The same with brides wearing a white gown for their wedding. It only first became a thing when Queen Victoria wore a white gown to her wedding.

    And the problem of going to a hotel room, a place infamous for the types of activities it is notorious for, on the holiest day of your life is perhaps the most shocking of all.

    Following close behind is the videotaping of the women dancing at the chasuna on their side of the mechitza. In virtually every case that video will be seen by frum men after the chasuna countless times.

    Yidden are not supposed to, or even allowed to, copy the “minhagim” of the Goyim. And even when not technically assur it surely goes against the spirit and kedusha of Torah and Yiddishkeit. Especially during one of the holiest times of our lives when we get married.

    #2426915
    besalel
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    YTV Alumni: Ashreicha for your kanyus. I am sure you still wear robes and turban and have not copied the goyishe custom to wear pants.

    #2426918
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    YTValumni, what you just said, I said it here, in this YWN Coffee Room, 2.5 years ago:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/how-to-reduce-the-cost-of-getting-married

    This is what I said here, 2.5 years ago:

    “The Diamond Engagement Ring is part of American — not Jewish — culture,
    and it is only found in places where American culture is influential.

    There has never been a Halachic requirement to give a Diamond Engagement Ring.

    Therefore, eliminating the Diamond Engagement Ring
    is a great way to reduce the cost of getting married.
    There should be no Engagement Ring, even without a diamond.”

    #2426926
    none2.0
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    The entire concept of a wedding comes from lavan lol. So ye

    #2427082
    HaKatan
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    Interesting.
    First, a general observation: many things that the goyim do actually have their roots in our mesorah. That doesn’t make their version right, of course, but just worth noting.

    Now, let’s take your points one at a time:
    There is certainly a mekor for giving gifts of jewelry to the Kallah, as we see from Eliezer eved Avraham and on.
    There are mekoros for wearing white, in various contexts, as it is a sign of purity, which makes sense considering that they just had their personal Yom Kippur that day.
    The types of hotels to which newlyweds go (meaning, nothing you would allow your kids to go near) are very unlikely to be infamous for those types of activities.
    The solution to that is either for men to not watch that video or, better, for the videographer to create two final videos: one with the dancing and one without.
    The last point is certainly true, though.

    #2427103
    wannamakeashidduch
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    I would like to know exactly where, in your mind, a chassin and Kallah with no apartment of their in the area own are supposed to sleep in their wedding night?

    #2427151
    ipchamistabra
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    Not to mention confetti.

    #2427216
    wannamakeashidduch
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    Can you please inform the plan where a young couple with no apartment yet should go after their wedding?

    #2427244
    notarebba
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    who hurt you?

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